AC 01.27.25City of Cupertino
Audit Committee Special Meeting
Minutes
January 27, 2025
CALL TO ORDER
At 3:30 p.m., Chair Schmidt called the special meeting to order in the City of Cupertino Quinlan
Conference Room, 10185 North Stelling Road.
ROLL CALL
Committee Members Present: Chair Eno Schmidt, Councilmember Sheila Mohan, Vice Mayor
Kitty Moore
City Staff Present: Janet Liang, Jonathan Orozco, Kristina Alfaro, Richard Wong
Absent: Committee member Angela Chen, Committee member Hanyan Wu
Guests: Carlos Oblites (Chandler), Chelsea Ritchie (Moss Adams), Keith Stribling (PARS), Angela
Tang (PARS), Jennifer Meza (PARS)
ORDERS OF THE DAY
1. APPROVE MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING ON NOVEMBER 25, 2024
Councilmember Mohan motioned to approve the minutes with Chair Schmidt’s edits, Vice Mayor
Moore seconded. The motion passes with Committee member Angela Chen and Committee
member Hanyan Wu absent with Vice Mayor Moore abstaining.
POSTPONEMENTS
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
2. Receive OPEB & Pension Section 115 Trust Performance Report for Quarter Ending
December 31, 2024
Meza and Stribling provided an overview. Chair Schmidt inquired about the City’s fixed income
performance of 2.53% compared to the BBARC Global, which had a return of -1.69% for the year.
He asked what contributed to the difference and why the City’s portfolio performed significantly
better than the index.
Stribling explained that BBARC Global includes foreign bonds, which were negatively impacted
by the strengthening of the U.S. dollar. He added that the BBARC US exhibited similar directional
movement but that the City's portfolio still outperformed. When asked why BBARC US was
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included as a benchmark, Stribling noted that having additional benchmarks does not pose a
downside and can provide useful comparative insights.
Chair Schmidt further inquired why the City’s fixed income investments performed better than
the benchmark. Stribling clarified that because the City's portfolio is focused on U.S. bonds and
excludes foreign bonds, it was not subject to the same currency fluctuations. He also noted that
including a global benchmark would imply that the portfolio manager is actively making
decisions relative to foreign bonds.
Councilmember Mohan asked if the benchmark indices were refined during the October meeting
and whether any changes had been made since then. Orozco confirmed that no changes were
made to the benchmark or target allocations.
Councilmember Mohan also questioned the relevance of these benchmarks to the City’s financial
strategy. Orozco responded that adjustments to the benchmarks are planned for 2025 to better
align with the City’s investment strategy. Chair Schmidt clarified that Stribling will recalculate
performance metrics on page 13 of the report, and Stribling confirmed.
No public comment.
The committee received the report.
3. Receive the Internal Audit and Fraud, Waste, and Abuse programs update
Ritchie provided an overview. Chair Schmidt asked how many external auditor
recommendations were being tracked for gap analysis. Ritchie confirmed that all external audit
findings are included in the review. Chair Schmidt further inquired whether any reports had
identified deficiencies. Orozco cited prior-period adjustments related to reclassifying certain
items to unidentified liability assets, which were subsequently corrected in the FY 2023-24 audit.
Chair Schmidt asked whether these identified gaps represent a one-time issue or an ongoing
process improvement effort. Ritchie stated that the process would be continuous, with
recommendations validated throughout future audits.
Councilmember Mohan inquired about the Policy Inventory gap analysis and why it was not
included in the update. Ritchie noted that the analysis had since been finalized. Councilmember
Mohan asked if the CIP policy has been resolved. Alfaro noted that staff is conducting a
comprehensive review of City Council policies, which will be presented to the Council.
Vice Mayor Moore inquired about the hotline statistics and if the committee will hear more about
the reports as well as some more details about the cases. Ritchie provided an overview. Orozco
asked if Moss Adams could include the length of how long the reports have been open. Ritchie
noted that Moss Adams will add the length time into the report. Vice Mayor Moore noted that
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No public comment.
The committee received the report.
4. Receive the Treasurer's Investment Report for the Quarter Ending December 31, 2024
Orozco provided an overview. Oblites provided an overview. Chair Schmidt asked what is the
difference between the cost value and the book value. Oblites explained that cost value represents
the purchase price of securities, including any accrued interest owed to the prior owner at the
time of purchase. Upon maturity, securities are redeemed at par value, and depending on market
conditions, they may have been purchased at a premium (above par) or a discount (below par).
The book value accounts for these premiums and discounts, amortized over the life of the bond.
Orozco noted that the City records investments at cost as it is easier for the City to reconcile.
Councilmember Mohan asked if there had been any changes in the City's investment approach
since prioritizing high-quality fixed-income securities. Oblites confirmed that there had been no
changes and that, per State law and the City's Investment Policy, investment decisions continue
to prioritize safety and liquidity before returns
No public comment.
The committee received the report.
5. Receive the proposed Audit Committee 2025 Schedule and Workplan
Orozco provided an overview. Vice Mayor Moore asked whether benchmark reviews would be
incorporated into the workplan. Chair Schmidt noted that benchmark discussions align with the
quarterly OPEB & Pension Trust performance reviews. Orozco confirmed that any discussion on
benchmark adjustments would occur during the October meeting.
No public comment.
STAFF AND COMMITTEE REPORTS
COMMITTEEMEMBER ATTENDANCE AT UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS
FUTURE AGENDA SETTING
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 4:57 p.m.
Recording Secretary:
the City Attorney is resigning and that may play a role in lengthening the process of these reports.
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Janet Liang, Management Analyst