Draft Minutes 4-10-07
CITY OFCUPERTINO
10300 Torre Avenue
Cupertino, CA 95014
CITY OF CUPERTINO PLANNING COMMISSION
DRAFT MINUTES
6:45 P.M. APRIL 10,2007 TUESDAY
CUPERTINO COMMUNITY HALL
The Planning Commission meeting of April 10, 2007, was called to order at 6:45 p.m. in the
Cupertino Community Hall, 10350 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California, by Chairperson Lisa
Giefer. .
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
ROLL CALL
Commissioners present: Chairperson:
Vice Chairperson:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Commissioner:
Lisa Giefer
Cary Chien
David Kaneda
Marty Miller
Gilbert Wong
Staff present: City Planner:
Associate Planner:
Assistant City Attorney:
Ciddy Wordell
Gary Chao
Eileen Murray
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes of the March 13, 2007 Planning Commission meeting:
Motion: Motion by Com. Wong, second by Com. Miller, to postpone approval of the
March 13, 2007 minutes to the April 24, 2007 Planning Commission meeting.
(Vote: 5-0-0)
Minutes of the March 27, 2007 Planning Commission meeting:
Motion: Motion by Com. Wong, second by Vice Chair Chien, to approve the March 27,
2007 minutes of the Planning Commission meeting as presented. (Vote: 5-0-0)
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: Ms. Ciddy Wordell, City Planner, noted receipt of items
relating to agenda items, and a letter regarding the R1/RHS application which was forwarded to
City Council.
POSTPONEMENTSIREMOV ALS FROM CALENDAR:
3. TM-2007-04
Rick Bleszynski
10185, 10215,
10227 Empire Ave.
Tentative Map to subdivide two parcels into three parcels
ranging from 6,650 to 7,047 square feet. Planning
Commission decision final unless appealed.
Request postponement to the Apri/24, 2007 Planning
Commission meeting.
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Motion: Motion by Com. Wong, second by Com. Miller, to postpone Application
TM-2007-04 to the April 24, 2007 Planning Commission meeting. (Vote: 5-0-0)
1. EXC-2007-02
Jennifer Jodoin
(DeCarli residence)
11640 Regnart
Canyon
Hillside Exception to construct a 689 square foot second story
addition to an existing residence for a total of 6,870 square feet,
which exceeds the 6,500 square feet allowed, and an exception
to build on a prominent ridgeline. Planning Commission decision
final unless appealed. Request postponement to the
Apri/24, 2007 Planning Commission meeting.
Motion: Motion by Com. Wong, second by Vice Chair Chien, to postpone EXC-2007-02
to the April 24, 2007 Planning Commission meeting. (Vote: 5-0-0)
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Virginia Tamblyn, Vicksburg Drive:
. Said she resided behind the Marketplace. She said that an ordinance was violated; the
Planning Department issued a permit to a restaurant that violated the Planning Commission
Resolution 3055 which was implemented in 1987 and reaffirmed in 2000 by a Planning
Department staff member. The resolution states "The existing restaurant and specialty food
services involving onsite food preparation which are located adjacent to the gated portion of
the rear corridor may remain. However, new food services involving on-site food preparation
shall not be permitted in this area." The intent of this condition is not only to prevent the
increase in the number of above described food establishments adjoining the rear corridor but
also upon termination of occupancy to preclude replacement of existing establishment with
food services which require a new use permit." Unfortunately a new use permit is not
required.
. She reported that she came upon a restaurant that was being installed and was told it did not
have a use permit and the neighbors did not have to be notified. She said she felt the system is
being manipulated in order to locate whatever is desired within the center without noticing the
residents which is a clear disadvantage to the residents who are impacted by the traffic, odor,
and activity. She said that the residents were not notified of the new restaurant because she
was told it was not required. When there is a change it should not negate the resolution 3055;
residents deserve to be notified.
. She said that the question arose that the restaurant is not adjacent to the alleyway, and said she
did not agree, as the definition of adjacent is near, and near is defined as relatively close by or
not far. She pointed out that the restaurant is located close to the back fence of the residence;
the distance from the fence of the residence to the back wall of the center is 66 feet, and there
is no parking within the gated area. The parking stalls start where the gated area ends; the area
behind La Patisserie is two loading docks and a space for trash containers which includes a
small work area and an alleyway. She said it was unfair to put in a restaurant that the nearby
residents who have worked so hard to have the resolution in place, have not had any input on.
Gary Chao:
. Referred to the site plan and illustrated the location of the Japanese restaurant. He stated that
the City Council implemented a condition on the shopping center, stating that "there shall be
no new restaurants located immediately adjacent to the service drive on the back strip of the
shopping center." That was intended for the tenant spaces that are immediate, abutting the
service drive in the back. When the restaurant came in it was obvious it was not immediate to
the service drive. He said that no conditions were violated based on staffs finding and the
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restaurant has obtained a tenant improvement permit to proceed and business license to occupy
the space.
Ciddy Wordell:
. Said that staff would meet with Ms. Tamblyn or others from the neighborhood if there was a
need to.
2. R-2006-62
Ray Chen (Lin
Residence)
7453 Stanford Place
Residential Design Review for a new, two-story 2,693
square foot residence. Planning Commission
decision final unless appealed. Postponed from the
March 27,2007 Planning Commission meeting.
Gary Chao, Associate Planner, presented the staff report:
. He reviewed the application for residential design review for a new two-story 2,693 square
foot residence, as outlined in the staff report.
Reported that neighbors are concerned with neighborhood compatibility, specifically the mass
and the scale of the project, as well as the architectural style of the proposed house. Some
neighbors have expressed concerns about privacy impacts and landscaping maintenance.
. Section 19.28.060 of the Rl Ordinance addresses design guidelines with regards to the
neighborhood compatibility. One of the main purposes of the Rl ordinance is to ensure a
reasonable level of compatibility in terms of scale and mass within the neighborhood. The Rl
has a set of development standards. The City has not in the past required property owners to
match the average square footage or floor area of the neighborhood. If it is designed in a
reasonable fashion that the applicant used materials and architectural styles, color of materials
consistent with the neighborhood that it is found to be acceptable. Since the neighborhood
meeting on March 23, the applicant has made some revisions to the project.
. He referred to the front elevations and reviewed the proposed changes. The applicant removed
the arches to be more consistent with the neighborhood; the garage door window has been
squared off; a stone veneer siding along the base of the front elevation wrapping around the
comer is proposed; the entry canopy has been dropped by six inches; more design oriented grid
patterns on top of the windows to introduce elements consistent with the neighborhood have
been introduced. The applicant is proposing a beige earth tone color and has elected to stay
away from the mission style red clay tile roofing; opting with a flat slate roofing system in
gray charcoal color as shown in the example. In response to some of the neighbors' concerns
with the bay window on the second floor, the applicant has squared off the bay window and is
limiting the windows to the front and not having windows along the sides of the square bay
window. In addition the bathroom window on the second floor is now a non-transparent
window. The applicant has elected to continue a roof skirt around the first floor to break up
the mass of the second story wall.
. Some additional options that the Planning Commission can make regarding enhancing the
texture and also the style of the home is tp consider requiring the applicant to provide smooth
stucco finish. The architect has offered that there is an option to increase the window trims
from 3 inches to 4.5 inches. Staff feels it is appropriate as it enhances the look of the house
and gives it more definition around the windows and gives it a more shadowed effect.
. Staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve the project with the revised plans as
proposed by the applicant and with the recommended changes by staff.
Vice Chair Chien:
. Asked staff to address the side of the house that is not set inwards on the second story. He said
he understood that second stories have to be set back from the first story, and asked how it
applies.
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Gary Chao:
. Said it was generally true; the ordinance requires on the second floor a minimum of ten foot
side yard setback. In terms of articulation we would like to have if possible on all four sides to
have some sort of breakage at least a couple of feet. The way the ordinance addresses that is
by requiring no more than 50% of the perimeter second floor wall be not over 6 feet exposed.
The project actually meets that rule. By nature of limiting that to 50% that means some of the
walls can be flushed and one of the side walls is one of those walls. Visually that wall is
broken up further by the skirt the applicant is proposing along that side, and it meets the
ordinance. The applicant does have the ability to have certain part of the wall straight up and
flushed.
Vice Chair Chien:
. Asked if the second story portion on the east side is set 5 feet in from the first story skirt.
Gary Chao:
. The right side elevation is flushed, it goes straight up; the ordinance allows that. He said the
applicant can be asked to explore the option of either bumping the ground floor wall out to
give it a more structural relief or to consider further recessing that wall back. Initially that wall
was at five feet on the ground floor, the second floor went straight up and that was inconsistent
with the ordinance so the applicant changed it to ten feet.
Vice Chair Chien:
. Clarified that it is set an additional five feet in. He said it appeared from the set plan and what
was in the binder that it was flush. (Staff responded that it was flush.)
Ciddy Wordell:
. The confusion was because initially the first floor was set back five feet and the second floor
was also set back 5 feet which was incorrect. The applicant moved the entire thing back 10
feet to make it meet the ordinance resulting in it being straight up.
Chair Giefer:
. Clarified that it was 10 feet from the property line. We are confusing the second story setback
with the setback from the property line; and using setback interchangeably referring to both
items in the discussion.
Gary Chao:
. Said it was not an ordinance requirement that the second floor has to be recessed from the
ground floor. He said the applicant's architect would address if there is any way additional
offsets can be made.
. Said that the second floor setback is required, and a way to view the right elevation is that the
ground floor setback is more than what is required as they only have to set it back 5 feet; for
the second floor the code requires a minimum of 10 feet. The applicant decided to shift the
house to the left to meet the entire second floor and ground requirement. The ground floor is
required to have 15 feet combined, a minimum of 5 feet; what is shown is that they have 5 feet
on the left side on the ground floor, and 10 feet on the right side which meets the ground floor
setback requirements. On the second floor the requirement is 25 feet combined; they have 15
feet on the left side and 10 feet on the right side. The ordinance does not require a recess from
the ground floor; it just says that 50% of that has to be in. They meet that requirement.
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Ciddy Wordell:
. Said she viewed it as an expedient; in the past many things have been appealed and rather than
have to go through multiple steps it seems more efficient that it comes directly to the Planning
Commission.
Chair Giefer:
. For clarification, regarding the second story because of the combined side yard set backs in
this particular case they elected to push the right side of the home to the 10 foot side yard
setback. What would the implications be if it was more centered on the home?
Gary Chao:
. Said it would be appropriate for the architect to respond to Chair Giefer's question.
. He said staff s preference would be to have all four sides have some recess which was
suggested to the applicant. The applicant looked at the option and felt it would mix up too
much of his floor plan. He would rather pick up the house and move it further to the left and
give the neighbor more distance and then visually address that blank wall with a skirt.
Ray Chen, project engineer and architect:
. Said that relative to setbacks, they have incorporated all the impacts to the neighbors when
doing the design.
. Said that originally it was a 10 foot setback on the right side; by doing a 10 foot setback and
the second story on the right side, the adjacent neighbor has 10 feet setback on that side, which
totals 20 foot building separation.
. He said on the left side there was a 15 foot setback on the second story, which is the staircase
plus the neighbor's 5 foot setback, which gives another 20 feet on the left side of building
separation. He noted that the house sits in the middle of the lot.
. He said the property owner paid fair market price to buy the lot which under the city ordinance
allows a second story, and they feel it is fair to allow them to build the second story.
Chair Giefer:
. Asked the applicant if he considered centering the second story over the first story of the
home?
Ray Chen:
. Responded no, that they attempted to do that but it increased the structure of the home. As a
structural engineer he said he would like to have at least one wall sitting on one side and by
doing so, minimize the impact giving more setbacks to the neighbor, which would minimize
the impact.
Chair Giefer opened the public hearing.
Charles Robidart, Tiptoe Lane:
. Said his property was the adjoining property to the northern boundary of the subject property,
sharing approximately a 32 foot length of fence in common which represents about 60% of the
lot width of the proposal.
. Said he was opposed to the staff recommendation and he and some of his neighbors felt the
project was inappropriate for the location.
. He said he did not want to discuss whether the quantifiable resolutions or regulations are at
issue; but specifically that Chapter 19.28 Single Family Residential Rl zones contains a
number of qualitative requirements for compatibility and for a house in the neighborhood and
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they felt that those qualitative measures have not been met. He said their findings were that
19.28.010 Part B and Part C were not being conformed to; 19.28.040 ifit is called into play, is
not being conformed to; and 19.28.060 Part C is not being conformed to. They are specific
areas they feel the qualitative measures of this project are not in conformance with the City of
Cupertino's own codes on Rl zoning.
. We believe that the assessments of those qualitative errors lie in five major aspects that have
not been properly taken into account. In considering the proposed dwelling with respect to the
adjacent properties, we believe there has not been enough emphasis given to that portion of the
north side, the Lowell Hurst Development. Specifically this is zoned with an "i" for single
family residence structures only. As such, any two story structure on the north side of Stanford
Place immediately puts itself at odds with the neighborhood, which has already been regulated
to single story at least on one side; and yet to put a two story house immediately produces a
conflict between the one and two story structures.
. Secondly, there are no existing large square footage homes either single story or two story on
Stanford Place; the actual pictures shown of two story houses are not on Stanford Place, they
are on other streets. Depending on how you want to define neighborhood, there is no support
for compatibility for a structure of this size or design within the neighborhood. We would like
to point out that we don't feel that the easement problem with PG&E, the phone company, and
the cable company has been properly addressed.
. They have had some discussions where the applicant has agreed to plant the trees at 12 feet
away from the fence so that in the future the trees will not interfere with the lines, and PG&E
won't have to come and lop off the tops of them, which would defeat the purpose of the
privacy. It is calculated that the trees need to be 14 to 16 feet tall, with 15 foot canopies, with
four of them on the property. She said it was a huge problem for the property to have that
many trees of that size in order to provide the privacy that the regulations call for. Your own
regulations call for the maintenance of privacy of the neighbors and that can only be achieved
by my calculations with very large trees on the property and a number of them.
. He said in the Code there are many references to compatibility with the neighborhood. He said
his response would be somewhat dated since he did not see the modified plans. He attended a
meeting two weeks ago where they spoke with Mr. Chen and raised their concerns; Mr. Chen
went away and made modifications which they saw only 15 minutes prior to this meeting. He
said they had no way of knowing what the new plan looks like, but from what they have seen
and been told by Mr. Chen, he boasted of the fact that this project was the third
implementation of the identical floor plan and design that had already been approved twice by
Cupertino. He said as a neighbor he was concerned, and questioned whether they had some
kind of richness of neighborhoods, or some kind of diversity where it is not necessary that
because it got approved in one neighborhood it must be rubber stamped into a second
neighborhood. He asked if it was possible that the neighborhoods differ and therefore what is
compatible with one is not compatible with another. He said they don't see the fact that this
plan has been adopted twice within the city of Cupertino sets any kind of positive precedent;
they feel it sets a negative precedent, that it is simply being rubber stamped because it has been
done before.
. He said in his opinion the notification process was flawed. The item was supposed to have
taken place on a previous agenda for this Commission; it was not done because the city of
Cupertino discovered it in mailing out notices to the wrong addresses. He said they were not
properly notified, and the meeting had to be put back and she had not seen the new plans
except for 15 minutes prior to the start of the meeting.
. Relative to the issues of landscape privacy, to mitigate privacy impacts and the visual mass and
bulk of new two story homes and additions, tree or shrub planting is required, which is a quote
from the Code. He said that the privacy planting has inherent conflicts with it based on the
easements from the utility and based upon the size of the necessary trees, but the privacy issue
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must be addressed and maintained. He asked that the Commission and the applicant go on
public record tonight to explain what is going to be able to be done and what can be done to
protect the privacy and compatibility and the integrity of the neighborhoods.
. Said his neighbor requested a set of plans on behalf of both of them.
Dan Borrego, Tiptoe Lane:
· Said he shared about 40% of the applicant's rear fence line.
· Relative to landscape requirements, he recommended not only that the trees be put in, but that
they be a particular size to maintain privacy that is there. He said it was unfair for the residents
to give up their privacy for the next three or four years for some small trees to grow to
sufficient size.
· Said they extrapolated the height of this house, where the windows are located, and the
distance to their own houses and Mr. Robidart did calculations and found that the trees would
need to be between 12 and 16 feet tall when they are planted in order to provide that privacy.
The RI doesn't mention that the trees need to be 12 and 16 feet tall, and he did not want to
wait five or six years to go in his back yard without people staring at him out of their windows.
This house seems to have been approved without giving any consideration to the zoning of the
property next to it. He said it appears to happen all over Cupertino, but after the first one
happened it should have raised some red flags and put that on the checklist of items to be
concerned with before approving these types of projects.
· Asked the Commission to request that the applicant work with the neighbors to chose mutually
agreeable trees or shrubs of the appropriate size and type, and then also ask that they consider
putting a covenant on the deed of the home so that the rear elevation cannot be changed and
the next oWner cannot take out the frosted window out and put a clear one in, or put in a bay
window. If there is a covenant, the Planning Department has some leverage to deny such an
application or request in the future; whereas if it is not done, they have to go through the whole
process agam.
Vice Chair Chien:
· Asked Mr. Borrego if he attended the meetings with the architect, and if he was aware of the
changes that they were going to make as a result of this meeting.
Mr. Borrego:
. Responded that there was one meeting. He said the architect would request the changes and
that he would get back to them and he assumed they would be talking to him prior to this, so
that none of this would likely be on the agenda tonight. He said he was aware of the 11
changes stated at the beginning of the meeting; but wanted to ensure it was done appropriately.
He said he was not satisfied with the size of the tree that is going to be planted.
Com. Wong:
. Summarized that Mr. Borrego's concern was notification; that the process is already
prescriptive in the ordinance and he felt he was not properly notified. It would have also been
helpful to have seen a landscaping plan or privacy protection plan ahead of the public hearing
instead of at the eleventh hour.
. You are aware that this is zoned Rl and you want some kind of consideration that if there was
a two story home on the boundary of the one story overlay, that there would be some kind of
consideration.
Mr. Borrego:
. Said if he had seen a landscaping plan and discussed it prior to coming here, that would not
have been something he would have stated. He would have already told the architect that an 8
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foot tall tree is not appropriate; and that a R 1-6i should not end next to an R I where it shares a
property line; maybe across the street, but it should not end anywhere in the city where it
shares a property line.
Ciddy Wordell:
· Explained the two story limitation and what the "i" means in a zoning district. The "i" overlay
zone requires a use permit in an Rl zoning district if somebody wants to seek to have a second
story. There are a few areas in Cupertino, and there have only been a few people apply for a
second story through the use permit process. It means that somebody possibly could have a
second story in an "i" district; now that there is a public review process for all second stories,
there is not a huge difference between the "i" and the regular Rl; both of them now have some
form of public review; it is just that the "i" is probably a higher hurdle to jump over. The
public review is there for both.
· Said the privacy planting is required to be on a covenant which is recorded on the title and it is
possible that if there is something else that the Planning Commission wants to have
highlighted to any future property owner, that could be called out as well.
Bernard Kalvelagt, Tiptoe Lane:
. He said he thought it was a travesty, and that as a compassionate neighbor, he would feel
infringed upon if somebody built a two story house overlooking his yard.
. He said that it stated the project was consistent with the Cupertino General Plan and applicable
specific plan, but it was obvious when walking down the street that it was inconsistent with the
neighborhood.
. He urged the Planning Commission to use their best judgment regarding the application.
Elena Herrera, Granola Drive:
. She said she felt with the ordinance as written, the Planning Commission had the ability to rule
on this case simply and clearly. The proposed house is not compatible with the neighborhood;
the "i" overlay withstanding or not, a major change is being made to the street if we start going
down a two story road and this neighborhood doesn't have the same situation I had where so
many of them are going to be rebuilt in the near future. Cupertino feels very much that their
neighborhoods are strong, that their community is strong and I urge you to respect the
community's voice in front of you tonight.
. Landscaping as mitigation; there was a case in recent months where the landscaping covenant
was not recorded properly and some very old growth trees were cut down next door to her
home because it was not recorded properly.
. With regard to noticing errors, she urged the Planning Commission to take seriously the
mistakes that have occurred in the past and correct them.
. Said it should be recognized that it is the existing families in the communities that have made
the schools what they are today. Respect these communities; they are the children in these
families that are setting the high scores in the schools that are making the properties so
desirable. She said the Planning Commission has the ability to say no or yes when it is
appropriate she urged them to do so.
Richard Whittington, Stanford Place:
. Expressed concern with the front appearance of the house, stating it had too much bulk. He
said he had no comment on the architecture, but was concerned about the portico area in the
front which is garish and stands out.
. Opposed to the application.
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Jennifer Griffin, Rancho Rinconada resident:
. Said she felt the building ordinance has come a long way in making sure that two story homes
that are delivered to the community are much more compatible in size than they were when
they were built under the County rules. In this situation, Stanford Place is an extremely
beautiful neighborhood; it is virgin territory for two story homes, ranch styles homes
completely up and down the street.
. She anticipated that the neighborhood in thirty or forty years would still be predominantly
ranch style homes; remodeled in a ranch style as a traditional type of architecture in Cupertino.
She said it was helpful that city staff was able to work with the architect to try to modify the
two story home; I do think that in this situation since this is the first two story on this street or
many homes, that if one does construct a two story, it should be wood sided, ranch style, slate
roof is more appropriate, and ensure that there are lower eaves.
. She expressed disappointment that the right side of the home had no second story setbacks; it
appears that staff has worked diligently to try to make sure that there was some sort of
articulation.
. Said she has been following the last three years of R1 ordinance and innumerable meetings
with the Board of Supervisors in the County; and she understood that there has to be a second
story setback on all four sides, regardless of how far the home is from each side. If it isn't, we
need to look at that, because you don't want 27 feet of stucco going straight up in the air,
whether you are 5 or 10 feet from the side. Also, if you plant trees in the back yard even 12
feet from the back PG&E easement, PG&E will cut their tops off and we need to make sure
that is taken into account. If we have a second story overlay we need to make sure property
values are not being reduced.
Larry Line, Stanford Place:
. Said that there were no other homes in the neighborhood with a 7 foot long portico in front.
The portico on the proposed home is about 8 feet from the street and makes a large home look
monstrous, and I would like something to do to take that away. There used to be a big tree in
the front yard that was cut down recently. Relative to the Municipal Code, he said that he
notified Gary Chao in January that the information that is required under Chapter 19.28
Section 1, the notification process did not meet the requirements of the Municipal Code.
. He said staff did not notify him about the meetings with architects although he lived directly
across the street; the first time he heard about the changes was today at 5 p.m. He said he was
not satisfied with the way the city government was handling it.
. He said the entire process is defective if it is approved without following each part of the
Municipal Code.
. He commented that behind his house was a two story house that is intrusive on his personal
privacy. He said with the new plan there was not enough room to plant a tree in the front yard.
. Opposed to the application.
Gary Chao:
. Relative to the entry feature, it is more than 20 feet setback from the property line; he was not
certain where the 8 foot setback figure came from as reported by Mr. Lyon.
. The circular columns have been squared off; there are four columns, the front columns are
about 4-1/2 feet protruding beyond the face of the house and the two rear columns are actually
part of the building. It is about 4-1/2 to 5 feet of protrusion from the house, but is set back
more than 20 feet.
Chair Giefer:
. As part of our notification process, when one builds a second story home, we notify the
neighbors on either side, the rear neighbors, do we notify the neighbor across the street? Do
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we mail plans to a specific subset of that. When you received the new plans, is the city under
obligation to mail those out to those neighbors to re-notify them of what really is being
proposed before the public hearing.
Gary Chao:
. Said that every neighbor within 300 feet of the project are notified; all the neighbors get a set
of plans. Generally speaking, if there is enough time, staff would re-notify the neighbors;
however, in this case there was not enough time to do so.
Com. Kaneda:
. Said that the privacy requirements state that the trees have to grow to a certain height within a
certain amount of time. He asked if the proposed trees meet those requirements.
Gary Chao:
. The ordinance has a pre approved list of shrubs or trees; it does also require a minimum, if the
applicant chooses trees in this case, the minimum planting size is 24 inch box and minimum
planting height is 8 feet at the time of planting. Shrubs are 15 gallon and 6 feet at the time of
planting.
. Said it met the requirements; the applicant is proposing 24 inch box minimum trees and they
would have to adhere to the minimum planting height of 8 feet unless something taller is
specified.
. Said you could require a larger tree to be planted; it cost more but would offer more immediate
privacy relief; however, we have been told by our arborist that based on the size, 24 inch box,
8 feet; it is a good balance between allowing the trees to be able to adapt to the soil when they
are young enough to do so. We have been told by our arborist that it will grow faster as
opposed to planting a huge tree that may not be accustomed to the area or the environment.
Com. Miller:
. There are two dimensions we are working with; one is the overall height and the other is the
depth of the structure to begin with, and I am still not sure why it needs to be that depth, and
one of the disadvantages is it creates a lot of shadow on the front door.
Ciddy Wordell:
. The code for the "i" overlay, means that if you want to do a second story, you must seek a use
permit from the Planning Commission.
Com. Wong:
. If somebody wanted to do a second story, they could do it, but it has to go through a use permit
and has more scrutiny, and that be pertained through that ordinance.
. He clarified that the pertinent application is an RI-6, which means that even though there is
90% one story, eventually the neighborhood could go two stories, which is prescriptive by the
ordinance.
. Relative to notification, is it only the first round that the first 300 feet get notified? If there are
any changes does that push the public hearing later so that the neighborhood does have a
chance to take a look at the new plans and there won't be as much misunderstanding as we are
hearing tonight? He said he recalled one of the reasons for the 2005 revisions was to improve
notification and if for some reason there were last minute changes, that there had to be some
mechanism to prevent last minute changes and then present it at the dais and take a chance.
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Ciddy Wordell:
· The procedure tonight is different from what we have done with the previous Rls. This is the
first referral of the Director to the Planning Commission directly of an R I approval since there
was a lot of neighborhood interest; there is no code requirement that the neighbors had to get a
copy of the revised plans, and as Gary Chao explained, there was a very tight turnaround. It
would have been helpful if there had been more time and if they had been notified that the
plans were on the website or they could come and pick them up; and that procedure will be
followed in the future.
· Said the findings for a use permit are specific; granting a second story is discretionary in an
RI-6i, it is not automatic. In the Rl-i you are able to have a second story.
Com. Miller:
. Said there were some issues raised at the public hearing; one was that once there is a border
between an RI area and an Rl-i area, he pointed out that the neighbors have a voice in the
decision to go to an RI area. He asked staff to confirm if a certain percentage of the
neighborhood signed a petition that they want it, would it be granted?
Ciddy Wordell:
. There isn't a hard and fast rule on that; we have not had anyone inquire about it in the last 8 to
10 years. The last time we used it, we used an ad hoc percentage that we wanted to see two-
thirds support and they did not have it, so the last attempt there was not an "i".
Com. Miller:
. He pointed out that any neighborhood can do that by collecting a petition from the neighbors
and if at least two-thirds of the neighborhood wants to limit the houses to one story, it in effect
becomes an Rl-i neighborhood with an overlay on it. One neighborhood chose to do that and
this neighborhood which application is being considered, did not choose to do that. In this
neighborhood they do have the right to have two story homes.
. He said it was always an issue between what is fair for the neighbors and what is fair for the
property owner; and it becomes an issue of property rights and at some point in time a
neighbor will want to sell his property or redevelop his property, and houses over a period of
40 or 50 years tend to become outdated in terms of functionality. It has to be balanced, what is
fair for the neighbors, and the biggest issue with the neighbors is privacy; and what fair is for
the individual homeowner in terms of he purchased the property and what are his rights under
the ordinances to develop it and expand it.
. From the standpoint if two stories should be allowed or not, the code does allow it as long at it
meets the requirements of privacy and we want to make sure that happens. I don't see that as
an issue under debate.
. The issue of compatibility of the neighborhood is important, and it is subjective. A number of
people have pointed out that the main issue is the portico in front, and it is very prominent. The
architect or homeowner could consider reducing the prominence of that portico which may be
more acceptable to the neighborhood. It is reasonable for staff to consider that and work with
the architect to reduce the prominence of the portico and make it more compatible and
acceptable with the neighborhood.
. Said he struggled with the issue of notification because staff said the next time everyone would
get notified, however this time they didn't get notified. He said that even though he was
inclined to accept the application, if the neighbors haven't had a chance to look at the changes
and raise their concerns, it is reasonable to continue the application to allow them to do that
and bring it back and perhaps over that period of time, people will feel more comfortable.
· He noted that on the prospective, the portico was shown with white columns which stand out
and make it more prominent. He recommended that the columns blend in with the rest of the
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front structure. He said aside from that, he was inclined to favor allowing the homeowner to
go ahead and do his two story addition and allow him to make reasonable use of his property,
given the reasonable restrictions.
. Noted that the homeowner complied with the letters of the ordinance and has gone along with
staffs suggestions in terms of making this house more compatible with the neighborhood.
Com. Wong:
. Said the concern is mainly communication which is clearly not good communication between
the applicant and the neighbors.
. He said he visited the site and viewed the picture in front of the property. He commented that
if he lived in the neighborhood, he would be concerned especially looking at the four white
columns.
. He said that if the information provided to the Planning Commission on Thursday would have
been given to the neighbors earlier, they would have had a chance to see the elevation and see
how it was changed so that it looks better, and also would be better informed. He said they
may not agree if it is compatible or not; it is in the mind of the viewer.
. The ordinance is prescriptive; he said he understood the concern that being in an Rl-6i, that
you want a consideration that you are abutting an Rl neighborhood which is allowed to have
two story homes.
. Some people don't like to use the word "transitional" but it is prescriptive for them that in this
particular zoning, they are allowed to build a two story home, and how can this Commission
look and mitigate it so that it can blend into the neighborhood.
. He said the elevations presented were fine.
. Regarding the landscaping for privacy protection, there will be 24 inch boxes, that will be in
the covenant; they will be 8 feet tall; it will take 3 to 5 years, but that is part of the prescriptive
ordinance; it cannot be changed tonight.
. Said he agreed that the portico should be reduced; the height should be lowered as it is not
compatible with the neighborhood.
. Said he was aware that it was difficult to see a two story home going into the neighborhood,
especially as it was the first one on the north side of Stanford Place. He said if there was better
communication, the process would have been better.
Vice Chair Chien:
. Expressed concern about the notification process, stating that the neighbors should have a
chance to look at the most recent plans. Said he supported the process to give everyone a
chance to see what is in writing, what has been drawn and a chance to respond.
. Said he did not support many of the arguments presented about why the house is incompatible.
He said he did not agree that a house should be designed by the neighbors, but should be
designed by the architect, with the neighbors having input. He said not many people would
want their house designed by their neighbors; it is a self-interest issue, a property right matter
and if you were going to build a house, you would want your architect and yourself to have
input, and not by a unanimous vote of your neighbors.
. The applicant has gone to great lengths to make changes based on a meeting set up between
the neighbors and the applicant. If the neighbors are given more time to look at the new set of
plans, he said he expected that if the neighbors have concerns, they also bring back alternatives
of what they would like. Many things are subjective, and when it is asserted to the Planning
Commission on the night of the hearing that something is not compatible, and there are no
facts to support that, it is difficult for the Planning Commission to make that finding.
. Said he did not have a problem with the house, but was willing to support an additional two
weeks for the neighbors to look at the plans.
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Com. Kaneda:
· Agreed with Vice Chair Chien with the concerns about how the information on the revised set
of plans went out and that the neighbors were not noticed.
· Agreed with the remaining commissioners that it was inappropriate to stop a two story
building in this area. Although next to an R6i zone, this house is not in that zone, and you
cannot just keep pushing the borders of the zone out. There are privacy issues, but the code
covers that and the architect came up with a plan that meets the requirements. He said he was
satisfied with that.
· Expressed concern about the style of the portico, but said he felt it could be worked out with
the neighbors.
· Said he agreed that continuing the application for two weeks would allow the architect to work
with the neighbors to address their concerns.
Chair Giefer:
· Said she had an issue with both the height and the size of the portico as well as the color being
one that stands out. She said she agreed that it needs to be reduced.
· Expressed concern that there is no second story offset on the right side of the home. The
mechanical engineer that spoke representing the client talked about how the home is centered
between the two adjacent homes but the second story is not centered on the home which it is
on. She said she was concerned regarding the design because it appears lopsided and the
neighbor on the right hand side is going to get a lot of reflectivity from that long wall. She
said she would like to see more articulation or a second story setback.
· Said that she did not recommend planting Madrones in the yard for landscape privacy as it was
a slow growing tree.
· Said she agreed that in an Rl zoning district, they could not prohibit the owners from building
a second story home. It is difficult for the neighborhood to accept the change and by rights the
landowner does have that opportunity, and the city tries to protect the privacy through different
mechanisms that run with the land and are recorded with the deed.
· Relative to notification, it is unfortunate the neighbors were not given an opportunity to study
the plans the Planning Commission received, even though they are available on the internet.
For those people who don't attend the city meetings all the time, it is new information. It is
unfair to the current neighbors who have come here tonight that they haven't had the
opportunity to study the plans and have the owner of the homes architect or project manager
explain the changes made.
· Said she supported continuance of the item to give more time for the neighbors to study the
plans, and have another neighborhood meeting with the property owner's representative to talk
about the changes. She said that when the item returns to the Planning Commission if specific
needs are still not met, they should be brought back to the Commission. She pointed out that
the property owner has rights as well and the role of the Planning Commission is to help work
out those issues as well as bring the neighborhood together because changes happen.
Motion: Motion by Vice Chair Chien, second by Com. Miller, to continue Application
R-2006-62 to the April 24, 2007 Planning Commission meeting. (Vote: 5-0-0)
OLD BUSINESS: None
NEW BUSINESS: None
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REPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION:
The Environmental Review Committee:
. Chair Giefer reported that the last meeting was cancelled; the next meeting is scheduled for
April!1,2007.
Housinl! Commission:
. No meeting held.
Mavor's Monthlv Meetinl! With Commissioners:
. Com. Wong reported that the next meeting is April 11, 2007.
Economic Development Committee:
. No meeting held yet.
REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
. No additional report from staff.
. Chair Giefer said that as a result of the last City Council meeting, they are redirecting the
Hillside R1 back to the Planning Commission for further study. Ciddy Wordell reported that
the date had not been set.
. Com. Miller provided an update on the progress of the North Valko Master Plan. He reported
on meetings held with the residents and the steering committee where discussion included use
of the site.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned to the April 24, 2007 Planning Commission
meeting at 6:45 p.m.
SUBMITTED BY:
Elizabeth A. Ellis, Recording Secretary