CC 01-24-89
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CIT'i OF ~, STATE OF c::ALIFCeIIA
10300 '!utQ(t; AVE1roE, aJPERI'IN), CA 95014
TELEPHONE: (408) 252-4505
MINUl'ES OF '!HE ADJCXJRNED RmJIAR CIT'i CDJNCIL MEFrIN:;
HElD JANUþ.Ry 24, 1989, CIT'i HAIL CXXJNCIL Œ1IMBER
lOlOO '!utQ(t; AVEmE, crlM:;KJ.'.uÐ, CALIFORNIA
œ-76OA
'!he meetin;J was called to order by Mayor Pluny at 7: 03
p.m.
Courk::. Present:
Gatto, Jåmsa1, }(qpel, Rcgers, Mayor P1uny
staff PL S .IÍL:
Actin;J city Manager Viskovich
City Clerk CDmelius
Director of n-núty Devel'-P'""'.L cowan
City Attorney Kilian
ORAL <XIHJNICATICH3 - Na1e.
Mayor Pluny :r:evi.-:I 8I/8I1t:s that had occurred during the
previCAJS public hearin;Js and the a....Lák.t status of the
kuilclin¡ of Highway 85.
Came. JåInsa1, Rogers, and }(qpel and Mayer Pluny stated
that at this point they ~ the staff reo ........&tia1
as s,,_ittecl.
c:1oonc. Gatto said he believed there shculd be no Mary
Aven.Je a. . and the ot:her 1IICIV8IIØ1t is the ŒÙ.y ooe that
shculd be analyzed.
Actin;J City Manager V.iskovich ~ the steps involved
in an enviramIental ..-- - It. of the two alternatives.
'!he ",n- - -. It. ToICUld be da1e at bath federal arx1 state
level and waüd be an l8 to 24 JD1th }AL' oC' _a.
Upa'1 its beir¥1 pointed art: that the General Plan lists Mary
AverJJe as a local ..t........t, Mr. Viskcvià1 said that perhaps
the circulatiat el......el.t of the General Plan woold need to
be intezpreted and perhaps General Plan Amer,,;h......L hearings
oculd bP. h61d siDultanecusly to the envh..........atal
..~-~~ }AL' O"""a. '!he amer.dlu.a.L waüd CXl\Sider
designating Mary as a collector or arterial, if neoes~~>y.
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MDIDI'ES OF 'IHE JANUARY 24, 1989, ADJCURNED REX;UIAR Cl'IY
a:xJNCIL MEEI'IN:> (0::-760A)
will KeIIpta1, of the Traffic Authority, verified that the
l8-24 mr::nth estimate for envh....c=..l.al review was ao::urate
in gene..."ëÙ. Mary Avenue "."""""a woold have an hp'ct m
I"""",..atim lams. 'Iherefore, the plO<-'a is mre il'Vol."Jed
ard it can add time to the envh.........jl.al ~.O"""'ð. If the
Mary Avenue alternative is elbninated ard the focus is m
"no aooees" , the ,,~--""'IØ1'\t time co.ùd be I""'h'Ced to
~"""'i"""tely 6-12 Da1tns.
Dooq sta1e, Fl=o.Jl.t un1m P.igh SdJ001 District, introduced
--..¡ .eIB of the District who were pl: s'!mt. He stated that
as a board, they felt they have been left art: of the
1-'L' -:--a. '!be school board did ccn:iuct a hearin;J m
Deo:-·J.er 6, 1988, \oIhicb was attended by Bert Visia:wich.
Mr. sta1e stated that the board does not feel that their
quest1CX1S were answered. He "",hftittecl tinnnnør¡ts pertaj.nin¡
to that school boarà meet:in;J arx1 the minutes of that
meetin;J .
Marshall Goldman, QJpertino resident, told Courk::il that
this is a very E!lDJtia1al issue. He felt it was the
oouse.BUS of citizens arx1 "'W""'t"ecl to have the Sl.JW<Al of
SCIII8 Camei, "IØI.¡ .ers, that put:tin;J an off-rcmp in a
nei.ghbort1ood is not in keepin;J with the CY'OmIInúty. Q1e
co.ùd always acquire mre infozmatim, however, peq>le are
affected by the lack of a dec::isim. Mr. Goldman c. .,.._, üe.l
Mr. viskovicb for his "--ibility. He stated that there
is not a case to be made for massive traffic if the "no
~a" is awraved. It is just that the City has always
had that particular ~a. He stated he has a gut fee1in;J
that there woold be minimal i~. He suggested msthcds
of mitigatim inc:lu:liD;¡' widaninq the bridge 0II8r 280 m
DeAnza Eb.ùevard arx1 a "flyt:Jller" into DeAnza Qill.ege. He
urged Courk::il to r......"..L Mary Aveme for now ard requested
a1ly the ''no ~a" envira1IIIenta1 ".a--__.·jL. 'Ihen, if
net' ~-!'ry, go back ard look at Mary AverJ.Je.
R:oI1"h\ra lllowsky, 21363 Dexter, ð.lh-~9d Courk::il regardin;J
It.em No. 6 in the Performance Agl,écauoaIL. 'Ibis i~
pertained to scurd walls. She stated that the attaåled map
shews scurd walls a1ly m part of the ",t.........t alcrç the
r.. suay. She had been told that the m1S9S need to be
c1irect1y adjacent to the fi. N/aY for scurd walls. She
stated that the area where Highways 280 and 85 cross is the
area wit.'1 the greatest noise i"t"""'t. She urged that scurd
walls be p.¡t all alcrç the roadway as per the exhibit she
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MINUI'ES OF 'IHE JANUARY 24, 1989, ADJCXJRNED REX;UIAR CI'l"l
o::xJNCIL MEETING (œ-760A)
sukmitted. She said that she had been told the sam:i walls
were negotiable and that Saratoga had sam:i walls all alcn:1
the way. She urged that Courk::il mcxli.fy the pE:... iœ:manœ
ðyu:.::wcut before signin:¡' it.
Judy Slana, 21398 Meteor Drive, said that hcmas are the
pecple I s sanctuaries. She expressed OClloeln ragardln:J
noise pollutim. She stated further that off-raap noises
are not CXI'1Stant arñ, therefore, are more disrupting than
the noise of a regular fl. ~/aY. She stated that qJality of
life shculd be the first priority and m:winq traffic the
seocni priority. She urged Cameil to guard the
envh............tt of children.
Jåm Vidovich, Mary Avenue, requested that Cameil nJœ a
decision tcn1ght arñ that l'Ùa("isim should be to have a Mary
Avenue off-nmp. He stated that SUnnyvale pecp1e want Mary
Avenue 1:hroogh. '!be off-nmp ('Qùd prevent the need to ¡:Art:
Mary 1:hroogh. He stated that an analysis will shaw that
Mazy Avenue _u~.. to go thrc:u;¡h. A vote of the rnmonUty
at large will make the decisim for the l'Y'ftOI'InUty as a
whole.
sœ-..e Patt, 21346 am.ford Drive, stated that truly it ~d
not DO "no !looe<''1'", D.tt 75% acness. '!be i.....Je is Mary
Avenue versus 75%. He stated that Mary AvenJe is not a 4-
lane :ccad, D.tt is ac:tually 2-3 lanes. Mary oooùd handle
the J.ncrease in traffic, D.tt can the neighboJ:b:xd? He felt
that an in::rease is not desirable '!be i9SUe as he sees it
is :incxrtvenience a1C8 a day. Mr. Patt '""'t'L: agd ootloeLll
regarding traffic i"""ct m other ..t.........ts. DeAnza
Boulevard is an 8-lane road in the area that ~ be
affected: the traffic will decrease Wen 85 is l::ui1t. Mr.
Patt stated œ ccuntecl the exit traffic frcm 85 to stevens
creek Eb.ùevard mic:h was 340 cars per hair in the a.m.:
316 mid-œy: and 560, 5:00 to 6:00 p.m. He stated this was
not encugh cars to warrant an exit. 'lhis 7'"1111....... of cars
~d rot have IIUc:h i"t"""t m DeAnza, D.tt a lot m Maxy
Avenue. He stated that the prå)lEIII with the reo· .,..-.1datia1.
is that an envira1ment:al i"""rot:. study~ be J-ro«! m
projectiCX1S and assI.IIIptia1s. He ~-aOO the cpinim that
that particular _~ft is not ns -iar). He has heard both
"no solutiCX1S" and ''no cost-effective solutiCX1S" regardin;J
right-of-way. He asJœd which was <::..u.u:....'"t arx1 what do they
mean.
He was in1'l,,,,,,,,,i that cost-effective pertains to viable
oolutiCX1S for the price. In regard to the SUIC.1:JeBt1m that
the off-nmp be one l.:me rather than two, Mr. Patt was
informed that the projected volume requiJ:es two lanes.
Withoot two lanes, the traffic ~d stack m the alts1de
lane of 85 which ~d make ingress arx1 egress difficult.
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CXXJNCIL MEETIN:; (0::-7601\)
Mr. Patt stated that when pEq>le talk abaIt cost, they
should L-,-..J.er ..mo's pay~. '!be decrease in the
hcIIIeowners' pJ:q)erty values is also a cost. He felt this
was not reasonable. He felt that the City should insist
that CalTrans try to ~ a1e lane frail 280 to 85 and Iœep
the CU1.1E!ltt """,""",,,a c:p!n, see what héq:.pe!1S and Iœep
evaluatirq the situatim.
art Avery, of Avery O:I1stnIctim in }bmtain View and
owner of Glenbrook AparcDents Œ1 Mary Avenue, stated that
he OŒ1cun:'ed with the need far SCUI'Xl walls. '!be ..t......ot
does not stq> any noise. FraIl casa DeAnza to the oaJœ
Shq::p~ Center, a wall is _u-w:!. Mr. Avery said there
will be 16 times more SCUI'Xl frail Mary than the freeway if
there is a Mary Avenue off-rcmp.
MiJœ 8.ù.lock, 21831 HeJ:mc6a, thanked Courk::il for dL"-M'in;J
the M::C1ellan Road alternatives. He requested that Courk::il
also drcp the Mary Avenue alternative. Mr. 8.ù.lock felt
the City should rei:øb.m;e the expeMitures of the
neighborhcod for sbYiies da1e. He stated he did see &aile
prå)lEIIIS with the ''no a~a" alternative. He urged
Courk::il not to sign any ðyL.........ILs right now arx1 that there
is no:rea&a'l to SlJ¡:.pOSe settinq aside $2 millim will solve
the prå)lem. He asked what projects the Cameil was
agreein;J to; no project has been~. He """'i-'L -ad
ocnfus1a1 regard:in;J the envh.........¡l.al "'~~-.......It and
awleme11tal envh.........d.dl i"t""rot L~l. He stated in the
past, CalTrans has da1e <!I~-r--·.ls that said no
..,1ft'l--·.l.al EIR is ne<'E!"..?'t)'. He did not want this to
hø~~. again. Mr. 8.ù.lock """'i-'L-'5'ed ~-m regarc:lin;J the
potential i"t""l't m DeAnza Eb.ùevard. He reviewed ~ies
of a San Jose MeraIly News clippin;J ~ }AL"l.Csed
deIrel..~_"ut. oc:mirg in 10 ,~ Valley and QJytJte Valley if
Highway 85 is iDpl~d..e:i. Mr. 8.ù.lock stated that a
SlJR)l~¡l.al Envh.........d..al T"t"""t Rq...u.llllJSt be da1e. It
shaùd CXl\Sider traffic with Highway 85 tuilt and also with
a no brl1d situatim.
Jàm Sà:lrato, l0600 North DeAnza Eb.ùevard, said that
industrial areas need ..~a, He synpathized with the Mary
Avenue haDeowners arx1 ~..&J that this was a very E!IIDtiŒ1lÙ
i~"'Je. Mr. Sà:lrato stated that Mary has the capacity far
additia1iÙ traffic; it was oriqinally planned to go thra.1gh
to SlInnyvale. He believed that the fun:is for that were
diverted to the Tantau Averue 0IIel:'Cr0SSin;J when Valloo was
tuilt. He felt Courk::il 11; .".. to give staff a pI'efer'n'd
altemative. He urged Courk::il to make a decisiŒ1 so
everya¡e cx:W.d make plans.
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HINtJI'ES OF '!HE JANUþ.Ry 24, 1989, AIlJaJRNED RmJI.AR crI"i
cnJNCIL ~ (0::-760A)
Bill Geun; erich ot ~-aurex and resident of 0Jpertin0,
stated that MeIssurex has ðWl.......i""'tely 900 8Iplayees:
""""""a is of interest to the rYWIt"'TIY. He felt ther8 was no
alternative to a Mary AveI'1..Ie off-ræp. He stated that such
an off-rëmp wculd serve the entire t'Y'OIWIItnUty.
Brian Bad1man, manager of Just Fresh, urged Cœncil t;.:) take
a careful look at the \od1ole t'Y'OIWIItnUty. '!he restaurant's
existeooe is threatened by lack of ~"""""a.
Doug Bowie, stevens creek Bo.1levard, JMA P............Lt.ies,
expressed BUß:'~ L for the Mary Averuæ off-ræp. He stated
it was good pl.annin;J to have that ."""""a.
I.i.roa Hayes of M.Jtorola also sua- ... Led the Mary Aver1.18
."",,*,f.', as did Kathy Nunes, manager of '!he 0I!ùœ Shcg>ing
Center .
OIarles Ni'I-'1 of Vallco stated that .,..,..,.,. to steYww
creek Bo.1levard was vital and SI~Led Mazy Aver1.18 &:> _a
it no other is lIV"Ii lAhle.
Den stebbins, Hewlett Packarã, expressed the cpiniat that
it is bIp:n:tant to IID\Ie traffic in an efficient IIIIIJ1nBr and
that stevens creek Eb.ùevard direct ."""""a is iDpartant.
Mr. SObrato told Courk::il that they wculd liJæ to hear its
prefea::ellOé tcrUght.
Ernie Bcaelli, Nathanson Aver1.18 and an EIIplay8e of lfatlett
Packarã, stated that the gent!eaan fraa Hewlett F8ckard was
not speakiJ'q for all eaplayees. He told Courk::il that they
ooold not get 100% of the infomatim: they PL·I...~y have
95%. 'Iberefare, he urged COun:il to 1IBke a '-'i.1a1. He
stated that with a Mary Averue .,..,..,.,a, mare than 200 haIIes
wcu1d be affected and suffer ~.....iatim. He said that
Hewlett Packard is a lag way fraD Mary Averue.
Mr. stebbins clarified that he was not here m a personal
basis, but had been asked by the General MaMger to
l~ Sb,LL Hewlett Packarã at the hearing.
RàJelt owens, Meteor Drive, stated that "no """""'e" was not
"no ".........'S'" . '!be questim is hew many going to ....-aurex
and Valloo were really affected. He urged Cameil to
decide at the "no ..,."....,a". later m, if it's -- ~M, Mary
Avenue wculd still be there and ooold be investigated at
that time.
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MINl1I'ES OF '!HE .JANUARY' 24, 1989, ADJaJRNED RmJlAR CIT'i
axJNCIL MEE.TIN:; (0::-760A)
A..--tinq City Manager viskavich stated that if Oouncil looks
a1ly at the "no ~a" alteznative, then finds ~ it does
not 1IiIt'Iñt arx1 then looks at Mary AvenJe, it will lerqthen
the priX -.n_.
Mr. KBIpt:cn, frc.m the Traffic Authority, stated that the
Authority owld ¡.4.' <-'d am c:p!n that port1m of the
freeway apPhu..i-tely 1992-93 am see if there is an i"l""'"'t
arx1 then look at sc.methin3 else. }bo....JN A expires in 1995
am the fun::iinq scurce ~d be jEq)ardized.
In respcllSe to a quest1cn fran Cameil, Mr. Viskcvic::h
stated that an Envh............tal T~ Rq...u.L owld adch. -
soum levels, however, usually higher volume equals higher
noise level.
tJpa'I bein;J asJœd if anather Courk::il owld overnù.e the
CU1.u,..L Cameil '-'iliJia1, the City Attorney respc:I'Ided that
he was not awaœ of CalTrans' }AL. <-a; however, shculd
anather Courk::il make a different ãecisim in the future, if
it were not too late, he was sure that ðec-isim ~d be
taken into consideraticn.
RàJert DeHart, of DeAnza College, B.ated that the college
had been planned for diIect a~'I' fraD øary Avenue and a
widenin:¡ of stellinq Road. He stated he does not feel "no
é!~9" is a soluticrn. Too many peq!1e are t.ryin¡¡ to get
to DeAnza College, bath students and these attendinq
t'Y"OmI1nity activities. A "flycver" wuld be advantagecus,
ha.Iever, he has been told it was too expensive arx1 such
things are not ocnstzucted for just cne institut1m.
It was IIICIIIed by Courk::. Jåu1sal, seccndecl by Oounc:. Gatto
and [""aaed unaJÚDDJsly to close the pJblic hearinq.
lID ~xo;: 9:00-9:12 p.m.
Courk::il di ~'esed the staff rec:> ........-.datim.
The City Attorney informed Cameil that sb::Ju1d they make a
decisim, the envira1menta1 ""-oo--¡t ~d still have to
CXl\Sider "no "\<:."Ç''''e''!I" regardless of what that tiA(-isim may
be.
It was IIIaII8d by Courk::. Gatto, seccndecl by Courk::. JÐ; ers and
the DÐt1m I""""'9d with Came. ~l and Mayor P1uny
clissentin] to delel.:e Mary Avenue as an alternative to be
CCI'ISiderecl.
Courk::il directed that a flyove.r into DeAnza College """"t"JS
arx:l the ¡:ut:tin:J thrcugh of Mary AvenJe to SUnnyvale be
stOOied.
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MINUTES OF !HE JANUARY 24, 1989, ADJaJRNED REX;UIM CIT'i
COONCIL MEE:l'JR; (œ-760A)
Di""""1SSion followed regarding the ~'\,,-sed PerfODllal'De
J\g1:e&..cuL. By 0CI'1SE!I'1SUS, Cameil stated that I~ No. 14
pertaining to mitigatim -"'IreS, shalld be maen::Ied to
read: '''!he Traffic Authority ~L 'eE' to provide fUrñin¡ not
to '""""eecl $3 million for related local street iDprcyements
to replace the loss of ,.~a in a IIIltually acx...vlable
manner. "
In regard to samd walls (I~ No.6), Mr. KsIIpta'I of the
Traffic Authority inf.., ..At'! Cameil that where samd ~..
62 dB, the Authority will attEmpt to provide mitigatim.
~ detailed noise studies will be da1e. In Saratoga,
preliminary studies shai that IIIX'e noise at:tenJation is
required.
It was suggested that the E!Jdúbit be augmented.
Mr. KsIIpta'I stated that it may not oœpletely shai where
samd walls JJIlJ.y occur, hcwever, he oculd not reo:. .,-'Vi to
the Authority that they er :- their standards.
Courk::i1 clarified they were not requestin; that.
In regard to I~ No. 12 of the "":fL........../L, Mr. KøIpta1
stated that the Authority will endeavor to adhere to their
sd1edule arx1 c:p!n each .....;j..-.l ocn::urrently. If that is
not possible, he will CXIIIe back. However, if Courk::il
wishes to p.xt in a stat:c...c..L that when the 8e'J..-..L thro.Igh
0Jpertin0 is da1e and the rest cannot be oœpleted m
sd1edule, the 0Jpertin0 sect1m w::W.d be opened, he w::W.d
not cbject as lmq it states that is the intent bIt not a
l'Y'ftWIIitJDe¡tt. Mr. KøIpta1 inf... ...Ad Courk::il that in regard to
I~ No. 15 of the ~.......... L, he believed that san Jose has
signed that partim of the ~.......... L, bIt the kind of
int:eråIarge still J1 g ~.. to be loolœd at.
Actin:¡ City MaMger ViskDvid1 told Courk::il that in oertaJn
areas of 0Jpertin0 there is a miniDJm 22 ft. -'1;"11. 'Iheøe
areas will probably not have l~ping in the -'li"11 bIt
just almq the ootside of the corridor. However, -'Ii...,
lant1""""'l'in:J oculd be loolœd at if the city wishes it.
Mr. KsIIpta'I eq:tIasized that there are restrictiCX1S m
~""Ire A funds fraD the ballot -""Jr8 and that any
mitigating -o:ures III.ISt be directly related to Highway 85.
Mr. Viskovich ini...........d council that in regard to I~ 15,
the ~ CXI1figuratim of the interå1an:Je will be
~ S,IIted for final review.
Mr. KsIIpta'I stated that the intent is that the interå1an:Je
will not be funded until Courk::i1 a¡:proves the design.
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MINUl'ES OF 'IHE J1\Nl1ARY 24, 1989, ADJaJRNED RmJIAR CI'IY
axJNCIL MEETIN:; (œ-760A)
Dj .U'''-im followed reç¡arc:1iJg wordinq that '-'OUld eazmark
furK:1s for the ~; hcMeYer, Mr. ReIIpta1 stated that
such wordinq '-'OUld prt: this as the most ~ item aIñ
no other i """Ie has such wordin;J.
It was m:wed by O::mx:. Jàu1sa1, secc:nBi by O::mx:. Kq:pù
and I""'a_-eð unan:iJJøJs1y to I!Idq)t Reøolutim No. 7718
autharizin;¡' executim of the Perfœ:mance ~.........jl æœndecl
as follows:
I~ No. 12 to state that shcW.d the seccn:l "'"9'-. tt. be
delayed in OCIIPletia1 for a time pericxi of fN8r six
Da1ths, the first -cp-..l '-'OUld be open to traffic.
I~ No. 14, first paragra¡n - deleted. 5eoad
paragra¡il to state, "'D. Traffic Authority _ u to
provide furñin) not to e,) }.' ~ $3 mill1m for related
local ..t......et bproYements to repl- the loss of _~a
in a DUtually a.~.lable manner."
I~ No. 15, to clarify that the Traffic Authority
_ r to fun.i an ~ at saratoga-sunnyvale
Road ..men the City approves the ~
CQ1figuratim.
It was IIIaII8d by COJnc. Gatto, eeocllded by Courk::. a.gers and
I""aagd unani:aD.1sly to cd.¥l Rss:lutial No. 7717 autharizin;¡'
e:xecutia1 of the n. v-y ~___.t.
Mr. ReIIpta1 gave an CIII8rView of the tiE line far
oœpletim of Hi.gtJ.1ay 85 and the remainin;J ¡.Ct.. <" -.
'Ihe IIIeE!tin:j was adjoozned at 10:30 p.m.
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