CC 05-21-19 Oral CommunicationsCL d2-1(19
Questions about the Regnart Creek Library Trail
from Concerned Neighborhood Residents
Cost
1.The trail is approximately 2.4 acres of land, and the expected price is $2.4M. There are
only three 'in-town' Cupertino lots currently listed for sale (source: Coldwell Banker
Realty, 5/14/19): two at $1.88M for 0.13 acres ($14.46M per acre) and one at $9M for 1.3
acres ($6.92M per acre). Using these as price comparisons, the trail at $2.4M for 2.4 acres
of usable recreational space is significantly less than it would be to purchase this land at
the expected price of $16.61M to $34.70M � the cost to improve it to make a trail.
Given this, why is this trail being considered "expensive" or not a good value?
2.The City received funding for six of the nine grants proposals that were applied for
recently (per a November 2018 summary). Are there more grants available for bicycle and
pedestrian projects in our city or are there new grant cycles for these same grant programs
each year, which would provide funds?
3.Are there any other available parcels on the east side of Cupertino that are being
considered for recreational space, other than the strip of land along Lawrence
Expressway?
Ethical Considerations
1.Many current residents on La Mar Drive have back gates that open onto the trail for
personal use, with some having paved pathways through their backyards leading to the
gates. Do these residents have agreements with the city and the Santa Clara Water
District to have private access to the trail?
2.There is currently a bicycle and pedestrian trail in front of the homes on Lozano Lane and
the western side of De Palma Lane, which has been there since the homes were built in
2004 and 2008. Every homeowner that lives there was aware it existed before buying
their homes, though some have recently disputed this. What steps has the City taken to
communicate that this trail has already been in existence for more than 10-15 years?
3.Also regarding the Lozano Lane/De Palma Lane area -Is there any encroachment onto
homeowners' land planned for this area, or will the trail be strictly on the Water District
property? Has there ever been anything in concepts or design which shows the Regnart
Trail encroaching onto land owned by residents?
4.Why is City Staff spending their very limited resources working on Alternative 4 despite
being given no official direction to do so? The direction from City Council in August 2018
was to release funds to pay for a design of the Regnart Creek Trail, not Alternative 4,
which was assessed as not meeting the recreation needs of the community. It does not
meet the criteria of the 2018 Pedestrian Plan, the 2016 Bicycle Plan, the Parks &
Recreation Master Plan, Cupertino's General Plan: Community Vision 2015-2040 Policy
M-1.3: Regional Trail Development, Policy M-2.3: Connectivity, and Policy M-5;3:
Connections to Trails. Further, there has been no city vote instructing the City Staff to
work on Alternative 4 and Council members are not allowed to give 'behind-the-scenes'
direction to City Staff to work on items not in the Workplan or without a vote.
5. Why is the City and the City Council ignoring all the years of input from Cupertino
residents that resulted in the 2018 Pedestrian Plan, the 2016 Bicycle Plan, and the Parks -&
Recreation Master Plan and trying to go back to the drawing board on the tr:ail?
6. Several of the residents on La Mar have said in City Council meetings that the trail would
be unsafe for residents. Have these residents been offered the option to build a tall wall
between their property and the trail, similar to the wall on Creekside park trail?
7. Does the input from the residents in the 80 homes who are against the trail count as more
important than the input from the over 60,000 residents who live within easy walking
distance of the proposed trail and stand to benefit from it? How is the City Staff making
sure that the needs of these 60,000 residents are not ignored?
Safety
1. There are many creek trails locally and some in Cupertino. A Google search did not come
up with .s..!J¥. incidences where someone has fallen into a creek from using a trail next to it.
Has the Santa Clara Valley Water District (SCVWD) seen any problems with this?
2. Does it seem to increase falls into a creek whether the creek trail has a fence or not
between the trail and the creek? Has Saratoga Creek Trail, the trail located about a mile
away (about a mile long, in a similar neighborhood, runs along a creek, policed by the Santa
Clara County Sheriff, and has houses that are directly adjacent to it) had any issues with
people, especially children, falling into the creek?
3. The new crossings at Blaney and E. Estates will have curb extensions, which will visually
narrow the streets. Have these been shown to reduce car speeds? Will they be only as wide
as the width of a parked car (so won't change the travel path for cars) or will they be wider?
4. The new crossings at Blaney and E. Estates will include push-button flashers when
pedestrians or bikes want to cross. Have these been shown to help increase visibility or
safety?
5. Current Safe Routes to School routes use the existing city streets. Have the number of
children walking and biking to school to the local schools of Eaton and Cupertino High
been increasing using these routes based on the SR2S Progress Reports?This would be a
good indication whether parents feel that the existing streets are safe to use, and whether
the current street conditions are encouraging more biking and walking to school.
6. Has there been any indication from the Santa Clara County Sheriff Department that
adding this new trail will increase crime in this area, including to adjacent residents? Have
any public statements regarding trail safety been made by the Sheriff Department, such as
in a public meeting?
7. Many people are seen speeding on La Mar Drive, making it a less safe street than expected
based on its 25 mph speed limit. Is data available from the electronic speed monitoring
cameras that show how fast people are driving? What percentage of them are exceeding
the speed limit?
Public Outreach
1. Was there public outreach for Cupertino's Pedestrian Plan and Cupertino's Bicycle Plan
before they were approved? What kind? How long was the process? Did these plans get
discussed by the Bicycle Pedestrian Commission before they went to City Council? Was
the Regnart Trail project in the plans before they went to City Council for approvat?
2. How many public meetings have there been on the Regnart Trail since September 2017
when this trail started its Feasibility Study? Has this been discussed at the Bicycle
Pedestrian Commission? Were neighbors notified that at each walkshop they could see
the complete length of the trail from inside the locked gates?
3. The City Staff have had one-on-one meetings with neighbors adjacent to the trail at their
homes in March and April. This seems to be because neighbors that have fences next to
the Water District land have complained so much about their privacy and security that this
was a necessary step. Did those neighbors talk about their concerns to City Staff at those
meetings? How long were the neighbors given to talk about their concerns? Since these
neighbors have claimed to be very concerned about their privacy and noise, it shouldbe
assumed that they would welcome the opportunity to talk to City Staff about how they
could mitigate the problem through a wall or new fence. How many (please specify
number or percent} of those neighbors were willing to tell City Staff which mitigation
solutions they preferred to address their concerns of privacy and noise, such as fences or
walls?
4. The City Staff has been sending out weekly email updates on the Regnart Trail since last
year. How many people are on this email list getting the updates each week? Can anyone
be on the list to get this information to stay up to date?
Usefulness
1. Eaton is very close by the exit from the trail, and Cupertino High School is also very close
to the exit from Creekside Park which would connect to the Regnart Trail. How many
students could use this trail to get to school?
2. Increased safety, by walking or biking away from cars, is one important consideration i n
building a Class 1 trail, but it doesn't seem like it should be the only one. What are other
factors that were considered when this project was made a Tier 1 Pedestrian project and a
Tier 2 Bicycle project for the city?
3. This trail is ranked very high (Tier 1 on the Pedestrian Plan) as trail that would be used by
pedestrians. Why are a Council member and some residents calling it a "bike path.,? Is
there something in the design that shows it won't be used by pedestrians?
4. Width of the trail seems to be a common topic, and comparisons to the Creekside Trail
which is immediately adjacent and used everyday by Cupertino High students should be
made. After measuring that path next to the creek, it was found that it was an 8 feet paved
path, with one 1 ½-2 foot shoulder, and over the bridge it was just 8 feet wide with oo
shoulder. It sounds like the Regnart Trail will be 8 feet wide plus two 2-foot shoulders
from E. Estates to Blaney, and even wider (10 feet with two 2-foot shoulders) headb)g
farther west. Is this accurate? Wouldn't these widths be even more comfortable to use
than the Creekside Trail?
Comparison to 'Alternative #4'
1. As mentioned, this trail is ranked very high (Tier 1 on the Pedestrian Plan) as a trail that
would be used by pedestrians. The alternative to the trail being proposed, called
'Alternative #4' only considers bikes. How is this being addressed to make a fair
comparison (apples-to-apples) in use for the residents between the Regnart Trail and
Alternative 4?
2. The City Staff have proposed for Alternative #4 to be Class 111 or maybe Class 11 lanes on ta
Mar and Pacifica. Class I II lanes generally consist of painted sharrows ('share the lane'
markings on the road) and some signs saying 'bike route'. How can this be compared
reasonably to an off-street trail? The bicycles will still need to mix with cars as they do
today, not providing any improvement for them.
3. The Alternative #4 includes a left turn in both directions directly onto Blaney, a road wi th
8,000 cars per day and a 30mph speed limit. The cyclist then must travel along Blaney,
only divided from all these cars by a paint stripe, until reaching another turn. How can this
be considered as safe for cyclists as a trail, which is separated completely from cars?
4. The latest speed data (April 2019) from the electronic speed monitors show that 43% of
vehicles are speeding on La Mar Drive, both heading east and heading west. Does
Alternative #4 address the issue of having vehicles driving faster than expected (posted}
speed limits? Is it reasonable to expect children to ride their bikes mixing with cars on
streets that have vehicles traveling up to 40-45mph, as the data shows?
5. Everyday, there are students crossing the Library parking lot to get to Eaton Elementary
and then to go to the Cupertino Library after school. They do this because it is the most
direct route to Eaton. The trail would allow these students to safely do this along t he ·sam e
path but away from cars and the busy parking lot. How does Alternative #4 address this
issue? If a comparison is being made between the trail and the Alternative #4, then it's
important to make sure that they are doing the same thing.
6. Alternative #4 is being marketed by those opposing the trail as a better alternative wUb
the following statements (from questions on 4/12/19, published on the Cupertino Ci ty
website): " ... the trail is 0.8 miles of non-contiguous path and requires crossing several busy
streets to enter and exit, the riskiest being the introduction of new mid street crossing at Blaney. "
Does the Alternative #4 have fewer than two (not "several") crossings shown for bikes and
pedestrians on the Trail? Heading west, the count appears to be six turning/crossings for
Alternative #4 to get from Creekside Park to the library for bikes, and three for Alternative
#4 to get to the library for pedestrians. Also, doesn't Alternative #4 also require left turn
crossings for bikes (unmarked) at both Blaney/La Mar and at Blaney/Pacifica?
7. Also stated (from questions on 4/12/19, published on the Cupertino City website) by those
opposing the trail is that, "Research shows most bike accidents happen at the crossings versus
when bicyclists rides perpendicular to cars ." Is there any such research that bikes crossing
perpendicular to cars have fewer accidents than when they cross at a marked crossing?
This seems contrary to common sense.
8. Also stated (from questions on 4/12/19, published on the Cupertino City website) by those
opposing the trail is that, "The ... crossing on Blaney as a proposed trail connector -is an
accident waiting to happen -This puts the children and bikers in blind spots ... " Is there any
"blind spot" in the design of the trail crossing at Blaney? Are there any design standards
that aren't being used that would make residents think it will be "an accident waiting to
happen"?
9. The Bicycle Pedestrian Commission at the April meeting approved a motion to state i twi:11;;
against Alternative #4 because not only did it not provide any new facilities for pedestrians
but it was also not in the Pedestrian Plan or the Bicycle Plan. They further stated thaU fit
was considered, then a fair comparison to a Class I trail for bikes at least would need to be
made, which would be Class IV bike lanes on La Mar Drive and Pacifica Drive. Would the
cost for comparable bike lanes (Class IV) on these streets be similar to what is expected for
the McClellan Class IV bike lanes ($4.9M total, from the 2017-18 CIP Budget)? This works
out to $3.06M per mile, or significantly more than the expected trail cost of $2.4M, which
also gives a new trail for walking and running.
Liability
1. There's been a lot of discussion about liability for the city if this trail is built. Here is
information about California State Code on trail liability:
"GOVERNMENT CODE§ 831.4 -TRA4 l5
Government Code§ 831.4 provides that public entities are not responsible for injuries
caused by a condition of any unpaved road or any trail which provides access to fishing,
hunting, camping, hiking, riding (animal and vehicular), watersports, recreational or scenic
areas. The law also protects private property owners who deed public easements (trans; to
municipalities for those same recreational purposes. California courts interpret tbe
immunity provided by Section 831.4 broadly, encompassing paved and unpaved tr,ail11.
and roads, even sidewalks and paths that are used for a recreational purpose, including
hiking, biking, skating, etc., or used for providing access to another recreational area. The
immunity applies to negligent maintenance, design or the location of trails."
This seems to mean that there is no increased liability for Cupertino under Californ1a Stahi
Code. Is there a reason to believe that this law does not apply to Cupertino?
2. Has Cupertino seen increased liability for other biking or pedestrian infrastructure, such
as sidewalks or bike lanes, or seen it for other trails (such as the Saratoga Creek Trail)?
3. Is it typical for Cupertino to indemnify (or take on liability) homeowners' property tha tl~
adjacent to parks, schools, trails, etc.? What about homeowners' property that is adjacentm
sidewalks? Does this ever happen?
Thank you to the City Staff for answering these questions to help the Regnart Trail neighborhood
residents.
Remarks to Cupertino City Council -May 21, 2019
By: Gary Wong, President -Campo De Lozano HOA
Topic: Regnart Creek Progress Report -65% Design Plan
Mayor Scharf, Vice Mayor Chang and council members
Representing the homeowners at Campo De Lozano Homeowners Association, in
my 3 minutes I want to provide the Council with an update pertaining to our
homes on Lozano Lane and the Regnart Creek Trail. About 10 months ago, when
the Feasibility Study was approved, Mayor Paul requested that staff work with
our group of homeowners to find a mitigating solution to the fact that the trail
will cross directly in front of our homes. At the beginning of the year, Vice Mayor
Chao, suggested staff work on the hardest parts of the trail.
We have expressed our concerns to staff, yet as of today, we have not advanced
our discussions and are likely at an impasse. It was our hope that at the 65%
design completion milestone, we would all have a better understanding what is
being proposed. A request to release the 65% plan was made, but it is being
withheld, despite the fact that information was shared with the public in April and
that it was supposed to be discussed and voted on tonight. So that we can
continue to make progress, we urge the Council to authorize release of the 65%
design plan. We have not seen it, the Water District has not seen it, the Council
has not seen it.
At the April 24th update, we learned that the trail width continues to be
overstated and the proposed solution to our concerns for privacy and safety was
the installation of removable planter boxes. Those who participated on the Trail
Walk probably didn't notice that our section was the only one without the red
trail markers that dotted the rest of the trail. 10 months and we have planter
boxes as an option.
Other speakers believe that outstanding issues pertaining to the trail are
engineering issues and can be resolved with additional funding. The truth of the
matter is there is insufficient width for the Water District to conduct its