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August 22nd, 1973W CITY OF CUPERTINO 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino Telephone: 252-4-505 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE OF.AUGUST 22, 1973 IN THE LIBRARY CONFERENCE ROOM CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA CALL TO ORDER The meeting was convened at 7:37 p.mo by Chairman McLaren.. ROLL CALL Members present: Koenitzer Sallan Weinstein and Chairman McLaren Members absent: Dressler Staff present: Senior Planning Technician Toby Kramer Recording Secretary Ruth Cox APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of the regular meeting of August 8, 1973. Member Koenitzer:noted that paragraph-9 of page 13 should show that Mr. McBain did not know how many branches would have to be removed.. Member Koenitzer pointed out on page 17 that motion carried should read 3-0-1-1. Member Sallan said she would make corrections at next meeting as she had forgotten to bring her -no-Les. Member Weinstein moved, seconded by Member Koenitzer, to approve .the minutes as corrected. Member. Sallan abstained, 1p Motion carried, 3-0-1 POSTPONEMENTS: Staff member Kramer reported that item 8 on agenda. Golden West :Sign.. Company ,(Lambert Fs Photo) was postpo-ed since neither party could be present. It was so moved. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None HC-89 Page I ;M inutes 'approved as 1corrected q a HC-89 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, L973 H-C!:NTROL MELTING Page 2 ' PUBLIC HEARINGS: HC-5 L,050. 3 1. Application HC-31,050. 3 o i ,' olin Brooks Boyd representing Hank of Bank of America requesting exception to the Sinn Ordinance to allow the +n1crica the installat_ioa of three �:(ldi.tional i_ ientification signs for the Bank of America at the rig � L"L side Of S Lcvens Creek Boulevard appro:�inatety 300 feet we:;t of Saratoga -Sunnyvale P.oad. Staff report: Staff Kramer noted this application had been heard at the June 20, 1973 mce brig at W11 i ('tL time Lhe committee had requested the pole sign be dropped from 20' to something less to conform with the Saich corner guidelines. The applicant Ls reCruesLin;-, approv it of a Sigi1 exception to 1110w five signs for the Rank of A-,�Orica buil_':Lng; Lwo are allowed. There are four mounted wall signs on building and 110. ground s_tgn. Slides were shown of the Bank of 1 :erica signs mounted on the building facade and the b<))�lc logo. Also t'n= ground sign and the modification to the_ ground sign. Ttle ground sign :-1.1.1 be the same sign as on the pole but will be mounted in a concrete )�1�;e. it wil_1_ be placed in the land- scaped area on Stevens Creek Boul.e :,ard. Member Weinstein noted these are t-e same signs as on the original appli- cation to which tile. cornurii+,:tee had voiced its objections. The Bank of America si(2ns are of .L:" letters and the logos are 3'8" x 5`. • There is a total of 238 square feet for the five signs; allowed is 201 square feet. Member Weinstein couldn't underst,.nd why the applicant, having received the committee's guidelines, was �.ts'.iug for an exception. Chairman McLaren pointed out there are criteria . for exceptions. :Member Koenitzer suggested that be;ore hearing, the application, the committ should discuss the guicle.l.ines for phis corner as this was the second sign application. He would like to define and apply criteria for guidelines. Chairman Ntcl,aren pointed out the building was already built and had had identification for many years; also -he applicant had agreed to the :lower- ing of the sign to 10'. Mr. John Boyd, architect for Bank :)f America, Palo Alto, indicated the two fronts of the building and pointed out the building is exposed to streets on three sides. The bank was asking to put up a logo that would be seen from the street; present logo can (.,nly be seen from Stevens Creek Boulevard by traffic going west. They were -is%_ ing to have a logo on north side because this side would eventually face onto the five acre development of Saich. Ile also pointed out letters that :;ay Bank of America are recessed 1.0' in back of a canopy. Because of placement of s _c;ns and exposure of building, the bank did not feel this was an ;_tnreascnable request. 0 i 0 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Chairman McLaren read Section 10.4 of the Sign Ordinance covering exceptions and explained a written reason for granting the excep— tion would have to be presented to the City Council. Member Koenitzer said the sign ordinance granted two signs. He felt one monument sign in front and logo on north would cover all directions and give all the identification needed for an coming from any direction. He said he would like to see a smaller sign in front; something not ever 8' x 8'6 Ms. Kramer pointed out the Home Savings sign. is 12' Member Weinstein commented that building and landscaping plans are �w fine. Sign plan is the worst. It violates ordinance. Structure 0 can be identified adequately with monument sign and logo and there B'. is no necessity for other signs. The committee had set forth guidelines and would not reverse previous position.. Chairman. McLaren pointed out that the couuuittee could recommend approval. of exception to the City Council if they so wished. Mr. Boyd said he did not feel in this particular case the ordinance, applied.1 There are three fronts on. the building, He then asked if the monument sign and two logos would be acceptable to the commit, p. Member Feinstein said ,he would not go for monument sign being 10' tall. -Mr. Boyd referred to ,signs at Gemco and other sites in the vicinity. He said only the top half of an 8' pylon sign would be seen from cars< service station si Chairman. McLaren ascertainedo-n at corner radiusb would affect visibility from 'turn at Highway 9 going west. Mr. Boyd said with sign at 10' height, they would need logo to afford z' view from cars. He offered to remove Bank of America signs from the walls under the canopy. Chairman McLaren asked if staff had checked about ruling on exist-- ing signs. 11s. Kramer said there was a, temporary permit.for moving sign, but other signs had not been approved as such at the time the. building was constructed.( Member Sallan said the disappointing part of the application was 0, that guidelines were not considered. The guidelines had been. set up to avoid this type of situation. She did not see any reasoIn 0 for granting an exception. Logo on north and south seemed appro- priate. She suggested leaving situation and considering it tempos ary until specific guidelines were set up. Mr. Boyd said three of the signs are existing, the pole `signwhich will be lowered, Bank. of America sign and and logo. He noted trey had added 28' to building and installed a .road going around three sides of building -and added one logo. HC- 89 Page 3 ITC-89 Pate 4 I'uhlic Hear- ings closed MINUTES OF THIS: AUGUST 22, 197;3 II-C,_>V�CI:OL MBI-17ING Member Sal.laa said lower and fewer signs were wanted. She had adequate =i-dent:ification and th'- ,1ppl.i"cation was asking signing. felt the building for excessive Mr. Boyd asked about kcop'.i1�; thC' i1l_11g th'Tt tJaS eXLSt'L11g. Member Koenitzer asked the staf;_ member l;: a cI1.11ig Ln logo hac"t got)e tnron h II -Control.. Ms. Kramer said _ho had not co _e acro--; i_Ilis in the file. Batik had been there about 15 years and CI1''ir'i;'.< i? 41'icLa1'C:_1 questi-onc.:l whether the signs -could be taken away. She SL1ggtSt"iCl a Coll Li_,, aLion t0 .1110w further research. its. Kramer said that _;r_ ul.d signs Auld re;:laiil, but well signs could be charged when there was a change in building. Meinber T.ti'ei"nst:ei.n said he could not see SaLch guidelines allowing this exception. lie asked about a Conti-,"uati.on, f,2el.i.ng this application was an attempt to ignore gui-d-lines an.l he would like to see a new applica- tion that conformed to Quidelines. "_'here was no way this could be acceptable. Chairman 1"cl.aren referred to Secti:n 10.4 as cause .for giving considera- tion to i:he applicant. Nile pointe! out instances where Council seemed to feel t'ni.s committee was being t o restrictive to applicants. Chairman McLaren then Dsked the applicant if Ite would like to continue the application or have the comtni_ti=ee take a vote. Mr. Boyd said he would not have proposed these. sign i_f it wercr not proper. He felt 40 ; nother look should be taken at th _: gui.di�li nes and perhaps some people should not be so arbitrary. Chairman McLaren noted that when t:le bank went in there was no indication there would be a road going around the bank. Since the property was surrounded with frontaglas, this should be taken into consideration. Mr.. Boyd pointed out the. logo on t.,e east wall gave design to building since it was a rather blank c,;all. He agreed it would be possible to see logo and sign at the sal:.e time. T':ic entrance to the bank from Stevens Creek Bout.evard is one �,Iay ;with e.•sit on further roadway. If Bank of America signs bothered the committ :e, these could be removed. Mr. Anthony Andrich, representati.v_: of Bank of America, said it was a bank policy to direct customers to entrances of doors which was reason for location of signs, out they wot1d be willing to give up these "directional" signs. After further discussi"on, Chairman 'IcLaren noted this was a Public Hearing and invited comments from the audi,:nce. There were none. Member lgeinstei.n movf-d, seconded by Member Sallan, to close Public Hearings. 'lotion carried, 4-0 . MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H CONTROL MEETING A discussion followed as to how this motion should be handled. At the request of Mr. Boyd, the committee agreed to reopen Public Hearings. Mr. Boyd again entered his petition for the pylon sign as proposed - and the two logos'with the bank removing the Bank of America wall HC-89 Page 5 Public Hear ins reopened signs. The height of the pylon sign was then discussed, and compared with 4 signsin nearby vicinity. Mr. Boyd pointed out a 10' sign is needed because Stevens Creek Boulevard.is so heavily traveled and the traffic moves so'fast. He then indicated that rather than have, application continued, he would prefer to have applica- tion denied and appeal to the. Council if proposed sign and two logos were not acceptable. - Chairman McLaren said she did not think a denial was necessary when there could be an agreement. She suggested a motion so Council wouldhave some guidelines to the committee's thinking. Member Weinstein noted it was imperative that a plan for the area be arrived at soon. After further discussion, Member Weinstein moved, seconded ay Public Hear - Member Sallan, to close Public Hearings. ings closed a Motion carried ; 4-0 3 Member Weinstein moved that Application HC-51,050.3 for a request HC-51,�05M of sign exception be approved, subject to standard H-Control condi- approved w/ tions, Exhibits F and F-1, and the following specific modifications! conditions and conditions: i (l) That the ground sign on. Exhibit F be reduced in height to, 8' from existing sidewalk level, No other changes are required of ground sign. ,i (2) That two logos be allowed on building facade on north and east elevations. i (3) No other signs of any kind, including the letters of Bank of America, be allowed on facade.or anywhere else, excluding window. Motionwas seconded .con ed b Member S a 11an. Y _ ,r HC-89 Page 6 HC-51,058.6 F,conomy Imports MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING AYES: Members Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: Member Koenitzer ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion, carried, 3-1 The applicant was informed this would be heard before the City Council on September 4, 1973. Exception was allowed because of exposure of building to three streets. 2. Application HC-51,058.6 of Peter Blacklock (Economy Imports) requesting exception to the Sign Ordinance to allow the installation of one over -sized identification sign for Economy Imports located at the southwest corner of Scofield Drive and Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. Staff report: Ms. Kramer reported the application had been before the committee for change of copy. This application was requesting approval of an exception to the Sign Ordinance for a sign that was non -conforming. There are two signs on the building; one sign is Economy Imports which is 93 square feet; 73.8 square feet is allowed. Another sign on side of the building is 24 square feet and because it is on the wall is subject to change or modification by the committee. Applicant had been asked to scale the sign dorm, but was asking for exception because sign already existed on building and because of misunderstanding of procedure. He had purchased the sign, not realizing it was in violation of the City Sign Ordinance. Slides were shown of the building, existing signs and other signs in the shopping center. Ms. Kramer pointed out Shoe Fair and Walker Lee signs which set a precedent for signs not conforming to black and white lettering. Mr. Peter Blacklock, owner of Economy Imports, explained since he was last before the committee, he had decided to take down the 24 square feet sign on the side, which woulE leave an overage of about 23 square feet. He had spoken to the sign maker about scaling existing 93 square feet sign down to 74' and had beer. told the present sign could not be cut down; he would have to buy a r.ew sign. Member Weinstein said even if the sign were cut down, it would not aesthetically affect anything. Sign and shopping center are disasters. The City Council should understanu it is not just the ordinance and that cutting size of sign would not help. Member Koenitzer recalled the applicant had checked with staff before purchasing bucket and was told it would be allowed. If a new sign were coming in, he would want something a lot smaller, but he felt there were extenuating circumstances in this case. 0 s MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-CONTROL i4FETING 1 Chairman McLaren opened the Public Hearing for comments from -..;;the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Weinstein. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval.of sign exception for k, Application HC-51,058.6, subject to standard H-Control conditions and exhibits F and F-1, with the additional condition that the smaller sign on north side of building be removed, feeling exceptio'� falls under paragraph 10.4A of. Sign Ordinance, extraordinary circum- stances not created by owner. Motion was seconded by Member Wein- stein. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 The applicant was informed this would be heard by the City Council on September 4, 19730 3. Application HC-51,323.1 of Ad -Art, Inc. representing Sancho's Restaurant requesting approval of site, architec- ture and signing for a restaurant facility located at 20030 Stevens Creek Boulevard Because applicant.was not present, the committee agreed to move this item to the end of the meeting. HC-51,058.6 approved w/ condition I HC--51,323.1 j,Sancho's Restaurant i Moved to end of agenda 4. Application HC-51,015.15 of,Edwin J. Myers (Cupertino HC-51,015.15 Crossroads Shopping Center) requesting approval of site 1 Crossroads modification and landscaping for the parking area between 1 Shopping Marie Callender's and Mike's Hero House in the Cupertino Center Crossroads Shopping Center. Staff report: Ms. Kramer noted a section of the parking lot had been reviewed when Marie Callender',s went in. One discussion was planter strip in front facing Stevens. Creek be 7' to 10'; appli.cant has made it 5' to allow for.parking. Modifications to. site plan for circulation reasons were pointed.out by the use of slides. 4_ ulc-89 Page 8 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, ; 973 H-CONTROL MEETING Member Koenitzer questioned if there were any concrete bumpers to make sure-4 traffic did not go into one way .lane, Ms. Kramer said there would be directional arrows. The applicant said there were bumpers for each parking space. Slides of the shopping center were shown. Mr. Edwin dyers, 10601 So. Saratoga -Sunnyvale R:)ad, Cupertino, said there was not room for 7' landscaping; can barely get in 5'. He said planter strips would go around light poles. Chairman McLaren ascertained area is irrigated. In answer to Member Weinstein's question as to whether it would screen autos, it was noted existing landscaping is about 1' in height. Member Sallan said when the guidelines had been given, the main concern of the committee was that cars parked directly on frontage be screened. 5' of landscaping was better than none. Parked cars should not be seen. The suggestion was that some type of shrubbery and mounding be used to provide this effect. This had not been done. With the exception of two islands, proposal is unacceptable; will not do the job. There should be some type of planting that grows 5' in height. A discussion was held regarding proposed plantings. Member Sallan pointed • out that along Stevens Creek frontage ground cover could not be used as screening. Mr. Myers said it was difficult to end up with mounding on 5' strip. Member Sallan offered to give specific guidelines. Member Koenitzer asked staff if parking spaces were limited, or could some be eliminated to obtain more than 5' strip. Ms. Kramer said the parking was very tight. Member Koenitzer noted that whatever is assigned should be extended to gas station at corner. He suggested a plant grouping that incorporated different heights so there is not a solid row of uniform height. Mr. Myers repeated not much mounding could be done in 5' space. If it were possible to omit several parking spaces, these could be included as mound with a tree. Member Sallan suggested putting a tree in each planter at island, keeping ground cover and some shrubbery. Member Weinstein questioned the use of Pampas grass. Member Koenitzer asked if short strip by Mike's Hero could be 10' wide and Mr. Myers said he would be going into somebody else's lease to get a 5' planter. 0 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING Member Sallan offered the guidelines that on major frontages 5- gallon size plants should be used; trees that were to be used as' accent should be.l5-gallon size and shrubbery should be interspace, with trees. i Mr. Myers referred to the street trees and Chairman McLaren pointe out the City has a list of approved trees. 1 Chairman McLaren- announced this was a Public Hearing, and opened the meeting to comments from the audience, There were none. Member Weinstein moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Sallan. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Sallan moved that Application HC-51,015.15 be continued to next regularly scheduled meeting with guidelines presented to the applicant. Member Weinstein seconded the motion.. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan; Weinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 5. Application HC-51,015.18 of Edwin J. Myers representing Golden Horn Restaurant requesting approval of the modifi- cation of architecture for an existing restaurant facilit located in the Cupertino Crossroads Shopping Center. Staff report: Ms. Kramer said application was for change to entrance and facade of restaurant to create a small alcove. The existing exterior of the building is red brick and windows which would be replaced with ceramic tile on front of building. Small area `for display would be retained and sign would remain the same. Slides were shown of existing structure, adjoining businesses and area, and rendering of proposed modifications. Member Weinstein commented he did not feel the sign could be a conforming one. Mr. Myers explained the proposed mod-ification, gave a.brief background of Golden Horn Restaurant and. the relationship covered by lease with the owner: HC-89 Page 9 Public Hear- ings closed HC-51,015.15 continued HC-51,015.18 Golden Horn Restaurant HC--89 MINUTES OF TILE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-Co)tiTI:OL MEETING ' Page 10 Public Hear- ings closed IIC-51,015.18 continued Member Weinstein raised the question if this would be an appropriate time to change the sign if it were non -conforming. MS. Kramer read the-4 ordinance covering this. McIi,,iber Koenitzer pointed out all the signs on the parapet are of comparable size. Mr. Myers showed samples of tiles hat would be used on the front of the building. Member Weinstein ascertained the sign was owned by Golden Horn Restaurant and the front of the buildin; by o,:,ner. He felt the committee should explore opportunity of making sign conforming. Mr. Myers noted there is nothing in Colden Horn's lease that.says sign has to be approved. He said he was willing to request lessee and owner to consider sign change. Member Koenitzer pointed out it miht look out of place to get one sign upgraded and leave other signs as is. Member Sallan said she would also like to see the possibility of having sign upgraded explored. Chairman McLaren asked Mr. Myers to check and see what control owner has on liquor store and cleaners. In answer to Member Koenitzer, Mr. flyers said the tile would be 95% • brown and 5% of the lighter shade. Chairr-iian 'McLaren announced this was a Public Hearing and opened the meeting for comments from the audience. There were none. Member Koenitzer moved, seconded by Alember Weinstein, to close Public Hearings. :lotion carried, 4-0 ;Member Koenitzer_ moved to continue Application HC-51,015.18 to the next regular meeting so that applicant can investigate possibility of sign revision. Seconded by Member Sallan. AYES: Members Koenitzer, Sallan, Aeinstein and Chairman McLaren NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler Motion carried, 4-0 At the staff member's suggestion, the committee agreed to hear those applications next whose representatives were present. 0 i' a MINUTES Or THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING. HC-89 ° Page 11 7. Sandy`s of Lodi Inc. (Red Barn) requesting change of 1 - copy of an existing sign located at the northwest coiner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Saich Way. x Staff member Kramer noted this was for a change of copy from Burger Chef to Red Barn. �! Slides were shown of existing sign, and surrounding area, g? Chairman McLaren asked if stipulation that trash be enclosed in brick had been researched. Ms. Kramer said that some>modificatioq was to be made but was not enforced. It was felt this condition fl should be added to sign as stipulation. In answer to Member Weinstein's question as to whether there was , an ordinance on trash enclosures, Ms. Kramer said they must be t{ provided but she was not sure what .applied"to this type of establish- ment. The receptacles shown in.front are for the customers' use, j Chairman McLaren noted there had been considerable discussion on this. Mr. John Challos,.795 Sherwood, Los Altos, explained Red Barn was taking a very short term lease of 18 months until they knew it L would be successful. Member Sallan ascertained no changes were anticipated to bu.ildingo member Koenitzer asked if pole could be painted white and the applicant agreed to do this. Member Weinstein asked about trash: containers. Concern was expressed about their being left in parking area. A location Alm With shrubbery or enclosure of some type was required. The applicant said they would rather take them out than spend money at this time to screen,enclosures. Member Koenitzer noted containers are needed outside. The appli R cant said the ones to the front of the parking area were not n.eede The applicant suggested painting them brown to blend with building 1 d h 7' t to take a loos, and see if Chairman McLaren. as ce t e app _scan they could he placed in a more inconspicuous spot, i Member Koenitzer moved to approve change of copy. for. Red Barn Change of sign to be red letters on white background and requested applicant copy approved paint the sign pole white. Seconded by Member Sallan, Motion carried; 4-0 IIC-89 Page 12 IIC-51,323.1 Sancho's Restaurant MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-CONTROL _1,1E..TING 3. Application IIC-51,323.1 Df Ad -Art, Inc. representing Sancho's Restaurant. Staff report: Staff- member Kramer said thci building that exists houses Nite Kap and Sancho's; one build.i,.g but two separate operations. Sancho's is having a proble::i with identifi_ation and a modification to exterior to achieve individuality has been proposed. The present exterior is red brick with windows and would be replace.l with red; -rood paneling. Landscaping will remain as is. The sign on front oj: building wil L be 14-1./2' ; 147' is allowed. The applicant would take "Sancho's" from pole sign. Staff did not know if sign would be left- 'dank or if Ni_-e Kap would use it. Member Weinstein questioned confo.�:mity of sign. Ms. Kramer pointed out it was a pole sign with can an in' -regal part of structure. I -Is . Kramer said a small entrance ,;ign at driveway was proposed. Sign woul.0 be approximately zi' hi,Yh. Letter_ng would be the same colors as on Sancho's sign on building. IIemher. Koenitzer asked to see a reproduction of the Sancho's sign to verify co"_ors. Mr. Vernon Burgess,1607 Terminal :"avenue, San Jose, described colors and showed drawings of what is planned. He e�plained modification. Member Weinstein commented the architectural modification was acceptable; • problem was signs. Mr. Burgess s;iid Nite Kap owns pole sign and Sancho's leases space on it. Sancho's does not want to be included on Nite Kap sign. he also explained the reason for the entrance sign. A brief discussion was held as to what would be done to sign if Sancho's removed. Member Weinstein asked if two sigr_s on wall of Nite Kap side could be removed. Ms. Kramer said Nite Kap could be asked to remove them, but if they refused, she didn't know �..;iat could be done. It was suggested a condition might be made that no copy be put in vacated portion of sign. Mr. Burgess pointed out that all cwner was willing to do was sign appli- cation. Sancho's was paying for all modifications. A discussion was held as to what could be required of a lessee in terms of upgrading landscaping. The cor..se.isus was that this would be the responsibility of the owner. In answer to Member Weinstein, Mr. Burgess said the purpose of multi -colors on Sancho's was to give a happy fE:eling. Member Weinstein said he would prefer one earthen color, and asked to see ;samples of the plastic letters to be used for the sign. 0 R" MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING D ' A recess was called at 10:15 p.m. to allow applicant to get samples of sign material. The meeting was reconvened at 10:23 p.m. The applicant.had.not been able to locate samples. Member Weinstein' said he would have to take applicant's word that sign would not be gaudy.as he was not qualified to judge. Member Sallan said she thoughts the proposed colors would function as advertising. Mr. Burgess said the colors were intended to promote a warm and friendly feeling. Member Koenitzer noted it was a Mexican restaurant and Mexican colors are bright. The intensity of the illumination was discussed. Mr. Burgess said these are individual letters with nobackground. Chairman McLaren noted this was a Public Hearing and opened the meeting.'to comments from the audience. There were none. Member Weinstein moved to close Public Hearings, seconded by Member Koenitzer. HC-89 Page 13 Public Hear- ingsclosed Motion carried, 4-0 F; Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-515323.1 to the City Council, subject to standard H--Control conditions, Exhibits HC�-51,�23.1 A, B, F and F--1, and the following special conditions: approved w/ conditions (1) That the colors of the illuminated Sancho's sign on building be subdued and blend well together. AML (2) That the sign at the driveway entrance be .reduced in size to 3' high x 3-,1/2' Tong and read "Enter" rather than entrance. Letters to be colored with same colors , as Sancho's sign on building. ;i (3) That the Sancho's material be taken off the reader board on the Nite Kap sign and Sancho's not advertise' anything on board. Chairman McLaren seconded the motion. • AXES: T r n Members I.oeniCzer, Weinstein and Chairman McL e a , NOES: None ABSTAIN: Member Sallan ABSENT: Member Dressler :I 'Motion carried, 3-0-1 IiC-89 MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 Y--CONTROL M1.l,TING Page 14 lic-96,109.4 City of Cupertino Public Hear- ings closed HC--96,109.4 approved Member Sallan noted she had abs'ained because of her concern with colors in sign, not with modification of architecture. Chairman McLaren informed the al,plicant this would be heard before the City Council on September 4, 1973. 6. Application IiC-96,109..-, of City of Cupertino requesting approval of landscaping of the City water tank located at the end of Mercedes Road. Staff report: M:.. Kramer said :he landscaping plans had been drawn up by the City employees and were intended to screen two stater tanks, one existing and one proposed for �­!)aie future date. The ground cover is to aid in erosion control. The la,dscaping is mainly ground cover with trees around it. Slides were shown of area and WIte:r tank. The proposed trees are easily ra�.intained. Ground cover should stop run --off problem. Chairman McLaren questioned irr_i.gation of trees and ground cover. Member tdcincte:in noted the native plantings should not require much t-iatering after they are esr.ablished. Member. Sallan movod to close Fubl1.c Ile.arings, seconded by Member Weinstein. Motion carried, 4-0 Member Sallan recommended approval of Application IIC-96,109.4 with standard H-Control_ conditions and Exhibit C, paying attention to the committee's concern for adequate irrigation of project. The motion was seconded by Member tJe:insteln. AYES: Members Koenitzer, NOES: None ABSENT: Member Dressler UNFINISHED BUSINESS: Sallan, Weinstein and Chairman McLaren Motion carried, 4-0 Member Weinstein referred to modification of ordinances. Ile said he had been disappointed for several reasons at City Council meeting. Council can grant or reverse this committee's decision merely according to ordinance, while dealing wi*:':+ problems with less information than ASAC has. Ile felt the committee had quite a lot of home work to do IN MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING in getting ordinances fixed up and the longer this was dragged out, the worse things would gets He proposed this committee each take a certain section of the ordinance and go over it in detail with proposed modification to get something to begin with. He said he felt Marie Callender`s would be in asking to change sign when they see Bumbleberry's sign, Member Koenitzer pointed out that Marie Callender's had requested that size sign even though there were larger signs already in adj acent areas I Chairman McLaren said she did not think the Council had reversed the decision on Bumbleberry simply because of ordinance, but because the applicant had been able to show the proposed sign, blended architecturally with the building. Member Weinstein suggested that when Council wants to overrule. a decision by H--Control, perhaps the application should be sent back to this committee. - A discussion then ensued over procedures and process involved. Chairman McLaren noted there have been very few reversals and explained when the Council gets a specific complaint and there is an ordinance covering it, they must consider it further. With regard to study of ordinance, she noted Member Koenitzer had covered it thoroughly and submitted a report. She suggested Member Weinstein submit his ideas in writing and when Mr. Cowan got back from vacation a special meeting could be arranged. Member Weinstein said he felt this committee should meet with staff and work on Saich property. Chairman McLaren said if the agenda would permit, perhaps it could be added to the next meeting. Chairman McLaren asked Ms. Kramer if pictures had been taken of 76 service station at Bubb Road and Stevens Creek Boulevard. Slides were shown of station and the dying trees and ivy. Trucks were shown. that have been. parked there for months indicating �1 major overhaul work was being done. There were trees knocked over by bumpers of cars; stops needed to protect the trees It was reported that Mr. Smith has been out to site and would contact owner of station again. Chairman McIaaren.asked. that the City Attorney be contacted as to what could be done. H&r 89 Page 15 I I C- 89 Page 16 ADJOURI I _ NT MINUTES OF TIIE' AUGUST 22, 1973 H-CONTROL MELTING NELJ BUSINESS: Me:i;ber Koenitzcr r.^_-port-odi the Te:iaiau St:atl.ol? at Ilomcste3ad Road and Saratoga -Sunnyvale load h_ld a pile of old tires on west side and he felt the City could que 3L on their- ul�h:eep of the lot. He also referred to the Sheil,Statioli at Stevens Creek L'oulevard and Saratoga -Sunnyvale Road. The ordin;lncc� allo;Js 25% of area to be used for acivertisin; this sta-ion has the ;a.ndo:a pl.std�rcid solid with signs. In conjunction with th�.s, Chairma,. IcLaren referred to the huge wi:ldow sighs of Shoe Fair. The e:-Itorcement of this ordinance was discussed. Member Sallan noted the Shell Sta:icn at Stevens Creek Boulevard a:id Saratoga --Sunnyvale :Road had p _acid trees in the wrong location and asked staff to check on this. Procedures of landscaping review and enforcement: were discussed br-efly. At 1.1:00 p.m., ?•Ie:lil,er [iei;istein IIL)Vc i to adjourci the Ineeting Ll'ltil September 5, 1973 at: 7:30 p.m. S:'zonded by Koenitzer. ATTEST: /s/ Wm. E.RY(ier. City Clerk a ."lotion Carr. iod, 4-0 • Lj.'PRO VE.D : /s/ Juanita �'Ic_Larcn Ch_aj.rman 0