December 19th, 1973CITY OF CUPERTINO
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10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino
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Telephone: 252-4505
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE APPROV
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COMMITTEE OF DECEMBER 19,-1973 IN THE LIBRARY CONFERENCE ROOM
CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
-.Vice•-Chairman Sallan opened the meeting at 7:40 p.m. with the
Salute to the Flag,
ROLL CALL
Members present: Dressler, Koenitzer, Weinstein and Vice -
Chairman Sallan
Members absent: Chairman MaLaren
Staff present: Senior Planning Technician Toby Kramer
Recording Secretary Ruth Cox
APPROVAL OF.MINUTESe
The Minutes of December'5, 1973 were not available.
POSTPONEMENTS: None
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None
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PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Since the applicant was not present for Item 1, it was agreed to
hear Item first.
2. Application HC-51,075.22A of Vallco Park, Ltd. (Unicorn II)
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requesting a modification of site and architecture for a
: Vallco;Park
light industrial building to allow the installation of a
nitrogen gas tank located at the east side of Tantau
Avenue aporoximate:i:v 270 ft. nnrth of Primari (Ic-P Airprn„a
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Staff report: Location of the tank will be in the northeast section of the
building occupying half of the loading dock area. The area will be closed
off and the enclosure used to store nitrogen tank. The texture of the
walls will match existing building. Another modification to site would
be to move curb toward east to provide landscaping area. Staff member
Kramer used the site plan to point out areas involved. The tank will
not be visible. Landscaping would be extended to provide softening in
front of wall.
Mr. Bill Tagg, representing Vallco Park, described landscaping. Member
Koenitzer suggested one tall plant that would fit in with rest of landscap-
ing be placed in front of wall. It was ascertained there are panels
that recess in the 17 ft. wall.
Mr. Marlin Anderson of American Microsystems asked if planter boxes
would be accepted. He said when their lease ended they would be
required to move everything back as it was and this planting of
tree could entail expense. The comr.iittee members felt that with the
expense being met for tank storage, a tree would not add that much.
Vice -Chairman Sallan explained when a planter should be utilized;
in this case a tree could be planted.
Mr. Tagg said there is another tree and he would suggest using same
type. He did not remember what it x,,as.
Member Weinstein asked if the tank would be vented or if there were
emissions. 1.4r. Anderson said there would be no emissions as the
process would be done internally within the enclosure.
It was agreed to use the same type of Agapanthus as are already
being used.
Public Hearin Member Weinstein moved to close the Public Hearing.
closed 1 Member Koenitzer.
HC-51,075.22A
approved w/
condition
Seconded by
Motion carried, 4-0
Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,075.22A to
the City Council with the standard conditions, exhibits A-1, A-2
and B-1 and with the additional condition that a 15 gallon tree
similar to other ones used in landscaping be planted in this
additional planting area in front of tank house. Seconded by
Member Dressler.
AYES: Dressler, Koenitzer, Weinstein and Vice -Chairman Sallan
NOES: None
Motion carried, 4-0
1AINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 19, 1973 H-CONTROL MEETING
Vice -Chairman Sallan notified the applicant this would be heard by
the City Council at its January 7, 1974 meeting.
1. Application. HC-51,299.1 of S.H.A.R.E.5 Inc. requesting a
modification of site, architecture and landscaping for a
proposed bank and office complex located between Stevens
Creek Boulevard and.Alves Drive approximately 150 ft
westerly of Saich Way.
Staff report: Ms. Kramer said the construction of a bank had requirej
relocation of office building to allow for drive -up windows not
necessitating further curb cuts on Stevens Creek Boulevard. She
pointed out on site plan the proposed pedestrian path from the
street to the bank and an additional path linking the bank with the
rest of the complex. There will still be a 30 ft. set back with
fence going along side of property.
A modification to bank building was an increase in the facade to
give the building prominence and differentiate from other office
buildings. She explained a few minor differences in the e-levationS.1,
The same materials and architectural features are being used.
Thechange, in landscaping was the elimination of proposed mounding
along Stevens Creek frontage. This would help in the future when
the bicycle path was installed.
Member Weinstein asked if the cars in the parking lot could be
seen from a car parked on Stevens Creek Boulevard. Ms. Kramer
said she did not think so; would not be much parking on street.
It was reported there are ample parking spaces provided for the
bank.
Mr. Larry Madsen, 110 First Street, Los Altos, clarified site
modification for Member Dressler. He said there is less square
footage than in original proposal.
Mr. Dale Phodes-5 vice-president, of S.H.A.R.E., spoke to scarcity of
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landscaping -on Bumbleberry. He noted the landscaping was not, com-
pleted but admitted what was in was .scrawny, He said they would be
adding more and improving the landscaping. Vice-Chairman'.Sallan.
said she wished to speak fu-rth.er to this to make sure their int.e.n-.
tions would be compatible to the committee's wishes.
Member Dressler ascertained all the buildings are to be one story
and< asked if the applicants had ever considered' covering walkways.
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Mr. Madsen said the walkways would be similar to those, in the City
'Hall parking area.
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S.H.A.R.E. Inc
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Vice -Chairman Sallan asked how much taller the bank building would be
than the original office buildings. Mr. Madsen said the bank building
{ would be 4 ft. to 6 ft. taller. Vice -Chairman Sallan asked for a
I description of the proposed building. Mr. Madsen said there would
be stained wood on the fascia and walls would be heavy textured
j plaster. The windows would be anodized aluminum with solar bronze
glass. The walls would be painted an adobe color. In answer to
Vice -Chairman Sallan, Mr. Madsen said the fascia stain would be a
dark brown with vertical lines.
Vice -Chairman Sallan asked the size of the bank site and Mr. Madsen
said it was approximately 50 ft. x 90 ft.
Member Weinstein questioned why the building had to be so high. Mr.
Rhodes answered it was because of the suspended ceiling, ducts and
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required space to cover mechanical equipment. Mr. Madsen pointed
{ out they were working from schematic drawings at this point and it
may be possible the building can be lower.
Member Dressler asked the frontage of the originally proposed
buildings. Mr. Madsen said the two buildings had covered 105 ft.
Bumbleberry is 90 ft.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said it was hard not to be arbitrary. She was con-
cerned about the height and thinks it should be lower. She was con-
cerned over massiveness of building and would'like it to be of a lower
profile. Mr. Madsen said this would be absolute maximum and it might
be possible to lower height when taey got to the working drawings.
Member Koenitzer felt it might be more visually interesting to have
the bank building differ in looks from Bumbleberry.
Member Weinstein felt the architecture could be changed to identify
with De Anza concept. He suggested dropping total height and using
tile roof with similar texture. Mr. Madsen said they wanted to keep
same design concept. He suggested L:Iie committee put a height condition
on approval if this was a concern. 111EMibe.r. Weinstein asked what was
wrong with tile since most exposure would be from Stevens Creek Boule-
vard. Mr. Madsen said the total pr->ject should relate together; tile
roof would be unrelated to the other- buildings.
Mr. Madsen pointed out there is a ti.me-bind. lie suggested the committee
could put a condition to approval aad it could go on to Council or he
would submit another proposal. He ;aid there have been minor changes
in floor plan that have to be adjusted. Mr. Rhodes said possibly trees
would break up massive appearance and they could change the color.
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Vice -Chairman Sallan pointed out it was the heighth of the building
that was of concern to the committee. Mr. Madsen felt perhaps the
cement plaster walls could be utilized on bank building and the
roof lowered. He pointed out they are under height allowance.
The structure duct and canopy to.conceal mechanical equipment
might be lowered to drop roof to between 20 ft. and 22 ft. Mr.
Rhodes said.it was cheaper to have a low roof but the bank must
have a higher ceiling. Ms. Kramer emphasized the higher roof .was
to cover mechanical equipment° Vice -Chairman Sallan suggested
making stain a lighter shade, Member Koenitzer said it should
be, the same as other buildings to tie in with rest of project'.
Mr. Madsen said they could go a shade lighter.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said the architecture was notclearand she
would like another opportunity to see what they are talking about
on a continuance basis. Member Dressler asked how far behind schedule
they were and Mr. Madsen explained the: reason for theirbeing
in,a bind time -wise. He asked if building.A could be approved and
the bank building continued. He would then come in with another
.plan with changes that would reflect their concerns.
Vice -Chairman Sallan wanted to be on record that she disapproved of
having to make judgments too quickly. She was aware of their
problem but would like to be able to make decision independently
of time. She :did not feel comfortable with saying yes before
examining it. Member Koenitzer said he felt he could approve
building. A. Mr. Madsen said he would feel better in having it
handled this ways
In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Madsen explained why landscaping
lobe had been moved over to create traffic island.
Member Koenitzer noted bumpers needed to be added on the parking,
spaces. Mro,Madsen said these had been included on later drawings
Vice --Chairman Sallan asked if pedestrian.walkways would be different,
texture from street. Mr. Madsen said; yes, they ,would be aggregate
concrete.' Signs were also suggested.
In answer to Member Dressler, Mr. Madsen explained roof plan of
drive-in booths.
After further discussion, it was agreed to approve building A and
continue bank building.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said this discussion would'be informational.
so.the applicant would have time to' revise his plans in light of
the discussion relative to the architecture.
LANDSCAPING
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ILC-51, 299 .1
approved
building A;
bank continue(
Member Koenitzer asked why the mounds were eliminated completely. Mr.
Madsen said on Council level the bicycle paths were discussed and
Council had asked that landscaping be geared to this possibility. in
the future.
Vice -Chairman Sallan said a mounding could be begun after bicycle
path allowance. It would have to be a low mounding but could be
fitted in. The applicants said this would not be a problem. Mr.
Madsen suggested it go in as a condition. He said it would be
incorporated into drawing of bank.
Member Weinstein said he had two comments. He would like to have
the Pampas grass replaced. i%,e second comment was on the Bronze
Flax. There were three isolated plants and these are usually planted
in groups.
Mr. Madsen suggested landscaping could be discussed at the same time
as the revised bank application.
Vice -Chairman Sallan suggested what was substituted for Pampas grass
should grow to 20 ft. Member Koenitzer said since there were already
two trees there, perhaps something lower might be better. He agreed
the Bronze Flax would be an appropriate choice.
Vice -Chairman Sallan noted that #8 on the legend isn't used as a single
plant generally. She had noticed a randomness to scheme. Has problem
making sense to Bumbleberry landscaping. She is concerned with this
happening here. There need to be ri ,re plants of same kind to come up
with significant grouping. She the._z went over the plans with Mr.
Madsen marking in her suggestions.
Mr. Rhodes asked about suggestions for Bumbleberry landscaping. Mr.
Madsen said they could come in with new plans on Bumbleberry incorpora-
ting their suggestions.
Member Dressler moved to close Public Hearings. Member Weinstein
seconded the motion.
.Motion carried, 4-0
Member Koenitzer moved to recommend approval of HC-51,299.1 to the City
Council for the site and architecture of Building A as shown on Exhibits
A-3rd revision and B-2. Architecture of bank and landscaping to be
continued. Seconded by Member Weinstein.
Motion carried, 4-0
A recess was called at 9:15 p.m. with meeting reconvening at 9:30 p.m.
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Vice -Chairman Sallan then opened a discussion of the Bumbleberry
landscaping discrepancies. Mr. Rhodes said he would try to satin"
fy the committee and agreed it was barren. The trees.and plants
could have been better. He said the landscaping had cost $6,.000e00
Vice -Chairman Sallan said one option was to replace 1 gallonsize
plants with 5 gallon size. -Another option was to start all over
again and regroup them,`putting.in a 1-1/2 ft. mound although
this might be too expensive. She.'also suggested putting in more
and larger plants, adding more trees. She, pointed out deciduous
trees were best suited for accent effect ° She referred to.new
guide linesandasked for 15 gallon size trees along frontages
Mr. Madsen said he would present a landscaping plan when the bank
application was resubmitted.
Member Koenitzer reminded Mr. Madsen that evergreen meant,both
coniferous and broadleaf varieties. It was noted that broadleaf.,
variety withstands air pollution better than the coniferous type.
Vice -Member Sallan said the eastern perimeter should be upgraded
relative to size of plants. She asked to have the gas meter hidden.
Vice -Member Sallan asked to have the committee's pleasure at the
applicant's cooperation communicated to the City Council.
The scope of the suggestions for Bumbleberry was as follows:
(1) Replace 1--gallon plants with 5-gallon plants as per
original. plan.
(2) Add 4 evergreen trees, 15rgallon sizes to Stevens Creek
planter area.
(3) Replace`1-gallon plants with 5-galleon plants on eastern
boundary as per original plane
(4). Add more 5-gallon shrubs on Stevens Creek frontage as
appropriate.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS: Discussion of Sign Ordinance
Staff member Kramer passed out sign.survey.a.nd explained the
proposed, .ordinance .changes. ..She noted the City Attorney has not
completedhis studies so changes cannot be .adopted at this time.
:Member Weinstein.f elt lighting should be added. Member Koenitzer
said the revision is a "stop gap" measure and further changes can,
.be gone into at a later date.
The committee then went* over the proposed,changes item by item with
each expressing his preference and ideas.
At 10;27 p.m. Councilman,Spa.r_ks distributed apricots to the committee.
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I ADJOURI�MENT
At 10:40 p.m. Member Dressler left, wishing everyone *ferry Christmas.
Sign heights was: a Major concern of the committee. Detailed dis-
cussion was held on different means of achieving, their goals.
Staff was asked to prepare an e_-:panded list of sign survey.
When it became apparent that the wordin- of the revisions would entail
more study, it was decided each member would prepare a report and
further discussion would be held before making any definite changes.
Vice -Chairman Sallan complimented Ms. Krati:er on her revisions to
sign ordinance presented for the committee's consideration.
At 11:50 p.m. Member Roenitzer moved, seconded by :Member Weinstein, to
adjourn to the next regular meeting in January, 1974.
Motion carried, 4-0'
The meeting was reopened at 11:51 p.m. January 17, 1974 was decided
on for a i;ieeting with J_andscapE. architect to review methods of
screening proposals, size of plants, rates of grov7th, wisdom of
choice and costs.
At 11:55 p.m. the meeting was again adjourned.
A.1T is ST :
6.'?.i._ E _ Ry('J�r
C iCy Clerk
Motion carried, 4-0
APnR0VED:
/s; Juanita McLaren
y Chairman
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