PC 03-25-91
2I~Y OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue
Cupertino, CA. 95014
(408) 252-4505
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD ON MARCH 25, 1991
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
ROLL CALL:
Chairman Mackenzie
Vice Chairman Fazekas
Commissioner Mann
Commissioner Mahoney
Commissioner Austin
commissioners Present:
Mark Caughey, city Planner
Travice Whitten, Assistant city Engineer
Ciddy Wordell, Associate Planner
Charles Kilian, City Attorney
Cheryl Kershner, Deputy City Attorney
staff Present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION:
SECOND:
VOTE:
MOTION:
SECOND:
VOTE:
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSTAIN:
VOTE:
Com. Fazekas moved to approve the minutes of March 11,
1991, as amended
Corn. Mahoney
Passed 5-0
Com. Fazekas moved to approve the minutes of February 20,
1991, General Plan Workshop Meeting
Com. Mann
Passed 5-0
Com. Fazekas moved to approve the minutes of March 5,
1991, General Plan Workshop Meeting
Com. Mann
Com. Mahoney
Passed 4-1
WRITTEM COMMOlfICATIONS:
- None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
- None
CONSENT CALENDAR:
- None
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of March 25, 1991
Page 2
POSTPONEMENTS OR NEW AGENDA ITEMS:
ITEM 1:
Application 16-TM-90 (Sobrato)
continuance to April 8, 1991
Applicant requests
Chr. Mackenzie requested that Mr. Chuck Kilian, City Attorney,
explain the concept of a Vesting Tentative Map.
Mr. Kilian stated the law allowing Vesting Tentative Maps was
enacted by the State Legislature about five years ago. It allows
a developer to vest his discretionary rights to build prior to the
issuance of a building permit. Up until this time, unless the
developer had a development Agreement, a developers rights to build
his property were not vested until a building permit was obtained
and commenced construction, at this point the City could not change
the development. The legislature adopted a law, if someone had all
discretionary approvals, except for a sub-division map, he could
vest the subdivision map by making an application, in which the
City could require certain conditions to the approval of a Vesting
Tentative Map. He noted as far as the Sobrato application, the Use
Permit has already been granted and what is required now is the
granting of a tentative map to subdivide the property. Once the
map is vested the developer has the right to qommence building
according to what is in the vested map and the use permit and
subsequent zoning and General Plan decisions will not normally
affect the right to build. Further discretionary acts can be
required.
In response to Com. Fazekas question regarding the advantages of
the Vesting Tentative Map, Mr. Kilian stated it is put a developers
statute. The purpose of it is in a large development where there
is phase development, once the developer receives approvals and
starting building phase I, he would not be precluded from building
phase II. He noted from a developers point it is similar to a
Development Agreement. He noted all the planning approvals are
locked in to the Vesting Tentative Map.
Chr. Mackenzie stated the Use Permit conditions must be specific
and the conditions of the Use Permit should be in the CC&R's.
Mr. John Sobrato stated the reason for the continuance is that the
lenders want specific conditions.
MOTION: Corn. Fazekas moved to continue application 16-TM-90 to
April 8, 1991
SECOND: Com. Austin
VOTE: Passed 5 - 0
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
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2.
Application NO(S):
Applicant:
Location:
3-GPA-90
City of cupertino
Citywide applicability
Review and comment on General Plan Alternative Specification.
staff Presentation: Ms. Ciddy Wordell presented the staff report.
The subject of this public hearing, she explained, is specification
of alternatives for General Plan review. Once agreed upon, these
alternatives will be evaluated in terms of traffic, parks,
utilities, and other measures and how it relates to the Goals
Committee directions. The Planning commission will then determine
which alternatives to recommend to the City Council. Ms. Wordell
explained how the alternatives were established. The existing
General Plan designations were increased or decreased for both
residential and non-residential development in the change areas
previously identified. Regarding the Non-residential development
a 20 percent increase in the General Plan FAR plus additional
requests from four major property holders in the City reflecting
their long term needs. The Intermediate Alternative is a 10
percent increase while the decreased alternative is a 10 percent
decrease.
Regarding Residential development, the decreased number was
established by taking residential parcels with development
potential and decreasing their General Plan designation by one
category. The intermediate alternative is based conceptually on
the fact that there are sites in cupertino that could yield
residential development. She noted in order to achieve the numbers
of residential units suggested by the Planning Commission, high
density is required.
Ms. Wordell explained Jobs/Housing Ratio as outlined in the staff
report. She noted the results show that the decreased and
intermediate alternatives improve the existing alternative, but the
increase alternative does not. She stated if the Commissioners
have any suggestions of changes to numbers, this is the time to
change them.
In response to Com. Fazekas question, Ms. Wordell stated the
computer run will measure traffic, air and noise, utilities,
infrastructure, housing parks and some General Plan goals.
In response to Corn. Mahoney's question regarding ABAG's figures,
Ms. Wordell stated they base their figures on vacancy rate and they
do attribute extra numbers to Cities that have a jobs/housing
imbalance. Regarding density, Ms. Wordell stated 40-45 units per
acre.
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The public hearing was opened.
Ms. Nancy Burnett, 729 Stendhal Ln., stated it was the
understanding of the people who created the General Plan, that when
they were talking about an increase it was based on what is
currently on the ground. A decrease would be below existing, which
is currently permitted by the General Plan. Ms. Burnett questioned
the bonus credits in the General Plan regarding Vallco. Ms.
Wordell stated the increase scenario is only the amount of square
footage that Vallco requested as a special request, which is above
what the General Plan allows.
Chr. Mackenzie stated the bonus credits are part of the existing
lot. Ms. Burnett questioned the portion of square footage of
Vallco that has not be allocated. Mr. Caughey stated 133,000 s.f.
of the 450,000 s. f. has not be allocated and in the decreased
scenario it has been subtracted.
Chr. Mackenzie stated some of the additional square feet does have
Use Permit.
Mr. Don Burnett, 729 Stendhal Ln., expressed concern regarding the
traffic studies and how effective they have been in the past. He
felt the Planning commission should be provided with evidence as to
the accuracy of the studies.
Mr. John Hailey, Tandem Computers, Inc., addressed the Jobs/Housing
ratio. He noted the ratios are suggesting that if the housing
intensi ty increases the City moves further away from a lower
jobs/housing ratio. He felt the ratio for employees per square
feet, as determined by staff, are higher than they actually are.
Tandem Computer are between 2.5 to 2.7 employees per 1000 square
feet and asked the City to take these figures into consideration.
Ms. Wordell stated this will be looked into in the evaluation. She
noted ABAG will require a scientific methodology for employee
density assumptions if the City uses different figures from ABAG.
In response to Com. Mann's question Ms. Wordell stated the City has
some employee counts.
Ms. Nadine Grant, 10463 Henry Creek, expressed concern regarding
traffic impact. Ms. Grant questioned under what category is the
Forum. Ms. Wordell stated this is under existing general plan
build-out. In response to Ms. Grant's question Ms. Wordell
explained the variables involved and the quality of life noting it
would be a subjective analysis of some of the qualities raised by
the Goals Committee.
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Ms. Janet Zeitman, 22907 Cricket Hill Rd., expressed concern
regarding the quality of life and growth balance in Cupertino. She
questioned why the city needs to grow noting the commercial vacancy
rate is high. She stated jobs/housing imbalance should be primary
consideration and expressed concern regarding traffic and feels D-
level is not acceptable. Ms. Zei tman stated her version of balance
would be not to add more buildings until the City deals with what
is here now. Get affordable housing into balance.
Ms. Susan Mirch-Kretschmann, 20568 Blossom Ln., expressed concern
of change area number 7, regarding commercial buildings in the
middle of residential neighborhoods. She expressed concern
regarding the protection of existing residents and the quality of
life in cupertino. She noted the public should be educated as to
what is happening in the City.
Ms. Joan Maleski, 1469 Poppy Way, stated she had served on the
Goals Committee and four more areas had been added to the change
areas. She expressed concern regarding area number 7 as it was
never discussed by the Goals Committee. She stated she would like
to be informed if any changes are made.
Chr. Mackenzie explained the process, noting the areas are only
potential for change and at this point nothing specific is planned
for the areas.
Mr. Kilian stated anyone who wishes to be contacted regarding the
agenda should leave their name and address with the City Clerk.
Mr. Steven Haze, 22681 San Juan Rd., questioned the current vacancy
rate for non-residential development. He noted this is valuable
information for the public. He suggested Demand Management
policies, look at General Plan and ways to manage resources. He
noted this review is an opportunity to take a look at Cupertino
being a designation place, not just to pass through. He noted the
land available for housing and affordability needs to be addressed.
Mr. Haze stated polls and surveys are important to find out what
the public wants.
Com. Mann stated that the city has an ordinance allowing second
uni ts on property, this would help out the affordable housing
situation.
Mr. Phil Zeitman, 22907 Cricket Hill, noted second units are not
always affordable. He noted the State mandates affordable housing
and this should be addressed rather than commercial development.
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Mr. Mark Kroll, 20300 stevens Creek Blvd., stated that community
involvement is very important as are definitions to this process.
He noted understanding the existing general plan is important and
affordable housing issues need to be addressed. He stated a
balance is needed.
Mr. Paul Ogenfritz, 10266 Danube Dr., stated affordable housing is
needed if there are huge increases in employees and who can't
afford to live in cupertino. He noted more recreation space, as
outlined in the General Plan, is needed. He noted amenities and
housing for the people who live here need to be in the General
Plan.
Mr. John Sobrato, 10600 De Anza Blvd., noted he was involved in the
Goals Committee. He stated, at Apple the employee ratio is 3
employees per 1000 s.f. He noted the figures have changed since a
1985 study by ABAG noting there is now larger space demand for
employees. Regarding housing he felt good planning could provide
50 units per acre and not necessarily high rise. He suggested
staff look at the ratio of employees per 1000 s.f. using today's
figures. He further suggested that the City designate very large
parcels, such as ones owned by H.P., Tandem, etc., as potential for
density increases and not small lots which· are economically
infeasible to increase their density. That density increases should
be for specific areas and not broad brushed across the City. This
will not only be more efficient for development or mass
transportation but will encourage these large world class companies
to remain in Cupertino.
Mr. Sobrato further stated that the Commission should look at the
st. Joseph Seminary property as a site for potential affordable
housing
Chr. Mackenzie questioned whether the employee ratio will increase
when the economy improves.
In response, Mr. Sobrato explained that cupertino is no longer a
manufacturing community which employee ratios would be sUbject to
fluctuations, but an engineering and software driven economy.
In response to Corn. Fazekas' question, Mr. Sobrato explained that
mixed use development would work better in commercial areas rather
than industrial areas. Retail shops need people close by to
survive, higher density along Stevens Creek Blvd. would fulfill
this need.
Mr. Farokh Deboo, 10257 Nile Dr., pointed out that successful large
density residential developments have large open spaces adjacent to
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them. He further stated that the city Center residents were led to
believe that there would be more open space next to them. He asked
that when the commission determines the density that they stick
with it.
Corn. Mahoney stated that he would like to see percentages added to
the charts. He questioned the increase in commercial growth even
though the overall density decreased. He stated that he did not
think it would be worth it to run the decreased scenario.
Com. Fazekas felt the residential density is high. He suggested
adding an economic study, were the residential density is increased
and commercial/industry maintains to current General Plan. This is
assuming that there is not enough commercial to help finance the
housing.
Mr. Caughey stated the intentions of this meeting was to have the
commissioners agree upon a defined range of alternatives, he
suggested another hearing with all assumptions written out and the
alternatives better defined.
Com. Fazekas stated they are working with the assumptions and if
the Commission agrees staff can proceed.
Mr. Phil zeitman expressed concern regarding complete build-out.
He stressed there is no such thing as build-out and felt it was a
waste of time to consider this scenario.
Chr. Mackenzie explained one of the requirements of writing a
General Plan is that a study is done of a full build-out scenario.
Ms. Nadine Grant questioned why start at the extreme ends and not
in the middle.
Com. Austin stated the four studies are being done to look at the
impact on the City, a point of reference is needed.
The Planning Commission directed staff to proceed with the four
alternatives as specified in the staff report.
commissioner Mann left the meeting at 10 p.m.
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3.
Application No(s):
Applicant:
Location:
81,003.618
City of Cupertino
Citywide applicability
Review and finding of
proposed revision of
Program.
General
the Five
Plan
Year
consistency for the
Capital Improvements
staff Presentation: Mr. Mark Caughey presented the staff report
noting the intent is the finding of General Plan consistency and
also environmental determination on the program itself. He noted
many of the programs which are described in the Capital
Improvements budget will require separate environmental assessments
at the time the projects are defined. This hearing is to determine
the legislative act of adopting the program and, if any,
environmental implications this would have. The Environmental
Review Committee has recommended a Negative Declaration. Mr.
Caughey stated this Program has not changed much from last year,
some of the timing and priortization of various projects have been
modified from year to year, but the pallet of projects has remained
unchanged for the last 2 or 3 years.
Mr. Caughey explained consistency with the General
specifically open space and street improvements.
Plan,
Chr. Mackenzie closed the pUblic hearing.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Corn. Mahoney moved to recommend granting a Negative
Declaration
Com. Fazekas
Com. Mann
Passed 4-1
Corn. Fazekas
Plan in the
findings and
Com. Mahoney
Com. Mann
Passed
moved to find consistency with the General
Five Year Capital Program subject to the
subconclusions of the hearing.
4-1
NEW BUSINESS:
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4.
INTERPRETATION of Ordinance
seating in retail grocery
customers for on-premise
purchased in the store.
1344 to allow for provision of
stores for incidental use by
consumption of food products
staff Presentation: Mr. Mark Caughey stated the grocery retail
industry is looking for opportunities to place seating inside
stores to accommodate customers buying prepared foods to eat on the
premises. Under interpretation of the Commercial Ordinance such
acti vi ty would be deemed a restaurant, which does require Use
Permit review. Mr. Caughey reiterated the guidelines as outlined
in the staff report. Staff feels this operation is self-regulating
and would not evolve into a defacto restaurant as long as the
guidelines were followed.
Chr. Mackenzie expressed concern regarding people taking advantage
of the situation. Mr. Caughey stated staff could come before the
commission for a re-interpretation of the Ordinance.
The public hearing was opened.
Mr. Greg Endum supports the interpretation of the Ordinance. He
noted there has been a change in the supermarket· industry and it is
economically sound to have eating establishments on the premises.
He noted stores have grown to accommodate more services for the
public and noted the seating area would be less that 2 percent of
the floor space in the Marina food store. He spoke in support of
the guidelines.
Mr. Charles Newman, Cupertino village, spoke in support of staff's
recommendation
Mr. Don Cochran, resident, stated the seating in the grocery stores
would be a benefit to the City and convenient to residents. He
noted it would cut down on traffic at the lunch period.
In response to Com. Mahoney's question regarding changing the
interpretation if it does not work, Mr. Kilian stated the
Resolution could be rescinded, however it would be difficult to not
allow an existing establishment to continue. The ordinance could
be changed in the future.
Com. Fazekas felt the problem would be with smaller grocery stores
and suggested a cap of 4 percent floor space and max of 1 seat per
500 s.f.
Com. Austin expressed concern regarding consumption of alcohol on
the premises. Mr. Kilian stated a separate license would be
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required for this.
Chr. Mackenzie expressed concern regarding outside seating. Mr.
Caughey stated it is indoor seating only.
Mr. Kilian suggested changing the words "regulatory principles" to
guidelines as an ordinance is not being adopted and also a
provision allowing the Director of Planning to require a Use Permit
even though the applicant meets all the guidelines.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Fazekas moved to approve the Interpretation of
Ordinance 1344 subject to the findings and subconclusions
of the hearing with the following modifications: Add the
word "indoor" in the title of the Resolution; Next
paragraph to read "The Director of Community Development
may allow seating within a retail grocery outlet without
a Use Permit, provided that the following guidelines are
met; Add #7 the number of seats within a grocery store
shall be no greater than one per 500 s. f.; Add #8
Alcoholic beverages cannot be consumed within the seating
area; Add #9 Director of Planning, at his discretion, can
require a Use Permit for said seating.
Corn. Mahoney
Corn. Mann
Passed 4-1
REPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION:
Com. Fazekas reported on the Mayor's Luncheon and explained the new
format and the Commission and Staff Members who should attend.
REPORT OF DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
- None
DISCUSSION OF NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS:
- None