October 22, 1990 CITY OF CUPERTINO
10300 TORRE AVENUE, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA 95014 (408) 252-4505
411/ SUMMARY MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL
AND SITE APPROVAL COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF CUPERTINO FOR
OCDOBER 22, 1990, MEETING HELD IN CONFERENCE ROOM A,
CITY HALL, AT 10300 TORRE AVENUE, CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA
By general consensus Committee Member Hoxsie was designated Acting
Chairman.
The meeting was called to order at 7:32 PM by Acting Chairman Hoxsie.
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Hoxsie, Lim, and Weber
Members Absent: Chairman Gong and Jackson
Staff Present: Tom Robillard, Planner II
POSTPONEFIENTS/ADJUSTMENTSIOTEMAGENDA CFDER
- None.
WRITTEN AND VERBAL CCPMUNICATION
- None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Items 1 and 3 were removed from the Consent Calendar.
1. Application ASAC 51,923.1 - Art and Display - Requesting approval to
modify a planned development and sign program for an existing
retirement and condominium project located at the southeast corner of
Stevens Creek Boulevard and Torre Avenue.
Tan Robillard reviewed the staff comments, noting the location, size,
and colors of both signs.
Jordan Carter, Art and Display, and Chris Kau, Podium Condominiums,
answered questions of the Committee. Committee Member Lim expressed
no concern for the proposal.
Committee Members WPYPr and Hoxsie expressed concerns for the height
of the sign.
Mr. Carter and Ms. Kau explained that if the sign was smaller, it
would be difficult to read and detract from its appearance.
DECISION:
On a 2-1 vote, with Committee Member Weber voting no, application ASAC
51,923.1 was approved according to the findings and conditions
contained in the Model Resolution, with condition 10 added to read as
follows:
ASAC Minutes for the Meeting of October 22, 1990
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• 10. The color shall consist of a natural concrete base Ultra Green
(E-117) cabinet, Zolotone (flecked granite appearance) background
with white letters, and Ultra Green (E-117) and Orange Glow
(B-100) logo.
2. Application ASAC 10-U-89 - Mariani Development Company - Requesting
approval to modify the previously approved site lighting for a new
Townhame development located at the southeast corner of De Anza
Boulevard and Homestead Road.
DECISION:
On a 3-0 vote, application ASAC 11-U-90 was approved according to the
findings and conditions contained in the Model Resolution.
3. Application ASAC 51,921.1 - Croutons, Incorporated - Requesting review
and approval for a new sign program and lighting plan for a new
restaurant located at the southeast corner of DeAnza Boulevard and
Calle Avenue.
Tom Robillard reviewed the staff comments, noting the colors and the
size of the proposed signs. He further explained that the parking lot
lighting was adequate.
Jay Dyer and Roxy Rapp, Croutons, Inc. answered questions of the
Committee Members.
• Committee Member Weber expressed no concern with the proposal.
Committee Member Lim expressed concern that the members who were
absent might not like the exposed neon band.
Committee member Hoxsie expressed concerns with the neon accent band,
stating that it might be contrary to City Council ideals for that
site. In other words, it might be creating too much of an "Art Deco -
Southern California" appearance.
Committee Member Lim moved to approve the application with no neon
accent band on the west elevation.
Committee Member Hoxsie seconded.
Committee Member Weber stated that the building needs the neon accent
band. He felt it is an integral feature to the building and will look
like it is missing something if it is not there.
Committee Members Hoxsie and Weber rescinded the motion.
Committee Member WehPr moved to approve the application according to
the Model Resolution. The motion died for lack of a second.
ASAC Minutes for the Meeting of October 22, 1990
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• DECISION:
On a 2-1 vote, with Committee Member Whim- voting no, application ASAC
51,921.1 was approved according to the findings and conditions
contained in the Model Resolution with condition 10 modified and
condition 11 added to read as follows:
10. The address number shall be mounted on the west building elevation
and be at least 3" in height.
11. The neon accent band is not approved at this time. The applicant
may return at a future date for formal review of those accent
bands.
EARLY REVIEW OF USE PERMIT
4. Application ASAC 11-U-90 - Sobrato Development Company - Requesting
early review of a Use Permit to demolish 564,000 feet of industrial
building space and construct 785,000 square feet of office space with
related site improvements. The site is located at the northeast
corner of Homestead Road and De Anza Boulevard.
Tarn Robillard reviewed the staff comments, outlining the scope of the
project and pointed out aspects of the site and architectural design.
He stated staff's only concern was with the four-story massive
appearance of the buildings.
• Bill Burns, Sobrato Development Corporation, answered questions of the
Committee Members and further defined the scope of the project.
Committee Member Lim expressed concern with landscaping meeting the
Xeriscape Guidelines and with the height of the trees along the east
end of the site.
Committee Member Weber expressed concern with the recreational uses
and their impacts on the residence to the east.
Committee Member Hoxsie expressed concern with the imposing height.
He stated the trees will screen the first and second floors but the
third and fourth floors will create an imposing feeling. He suggested
giving more interest to the third and fourth stories such as an extra
balcony.
Committee Member Lim stated that in consideration of the TEt4 program
the overall development is good.
The general consensus was that the project is very nice but all
members agreed with Committee Member Hoxsie's concern of the imposing
feeling of the building.
ASAC Minutes for the Meeting of October 22, 1990
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• 5. Application ASAC 21-U-90 - Dale Meyer Associates - Requesting early
review of the Use Permit to construct 5,000 square feet of additional
office space and remodel on existing shopping center. The site is
located at the northeast corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Blaney
Avenue.
Tarn Robillard reviewed the staff comments noting the aspects and staff
concerns of the site layout, architecture, and landscaping.
Dale Meyer, Project Architect, further reviewed the scope of the
project and answered questions of the Committee Members. He displayed
a color rendering of the project.
John Plungy, associate of the owner, also answered questions of the
Committee Members.
Committee Member Weber stated that the window treatment at the office
buildings should correlate with the window treatment throughout the
site. He further stated that he does not like the architectural
treatment to Building B, stating it looks too much like an "Orange
County" building.
Committee Member Lim stated he liked the tower effect which added
continuity to the site. He stated he was pleased with the
completeness of the plans but expressed concern regarding the
timeliness of the colors and questioned whether they would be out of
• place five to ten years down the line. He further added that a
sidewalk should be added in front of P.J. Mulligan leading to the
street sidewalk.
Committee Member Hoxsie stated the overall design was very good but
would like to see a better attempt to increase the pedestrian flow:
for example, sidewalks in the front of Building A. He expressed
concern regarding the visibility of the shops behind the stairwells,
and that the stairwell mass detracts from the appearance. He
suggested tile work on the sides of the second story office portion
and placing low landscaping in front of Building A. Lastly, he
expressed concerns with the patio at P.J. Mulligan and the possible
future problems that might cause for night time use. He suggested
that if it be approved, that it be limited to day time use only.
FORMAL REVIEW
6. Application ASAC 51,916.1 - Dale Meyer Associates - Requesting review
and approval for a new sign program at an existing shopping center.
The site is located at the northeast corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard
and Blaney Avenue.
Tarn Robillard reviewed the staff comments, pointing out the aspects
and concerns regarding ground signs, major tenant identification
signs, retail store-front identification signs, office identification
4110 signs and letter styles.
ASAC Minutes for the Meeting of October 22, 1990
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• Dale Meyer, Architect, and John Plungy, Associate of owner, answered
questions of the Committee Members. Committee Member Lim stated that
he preferred the individual tenant signs not be illuminated but that
P.J. Mulligan and Dairy Bell signs could be illuminated.
Committee Member WebPr agreed, stating that internally lit signs
looked too busy. He further stated he does not like the 8 ft. high
monument sign and that it should be reduced.
Committee Member Hoxsie also stated that the two ground signs should
be lowered. He expressed concerns of the letter style on the ground
signs, stating that it looks "boring". He expressed concerns of the
office signs being too large. He stated they should be reduced down
to twelve inches.
DECISION:
On a 3-0 vote, application ASAC 51,916.1 was approved according to the
findings and conditions contained in the Model Resolution, with
condition 11 modified and conditions 13, 14, and 15 added to read as
follows:
11. The office tenant identification signs shall consist of twelve
inch blue baked enamel letters and shall not be longer than 70% of
the wall the sign is located on. The letter style shall all be
helvetica.
• 13. Sign types C and Cl shall not be internally illuminated.
14. The ground sign shall be limited to six feet in height.
15. No sign for Building C is approved. The applicant may return at a
future date for formal review.
7. Application ASAC 51,922.1 - Sign Tech - Requesting review and approval
of a new sign program for an existing restaurant located at the
southwest corner of Wolfe Road and Pruneridge Avenue.
Tam Robillard reviewed the staff comments and answered questions of
the Committee Members.
Larry Bradley, Sign Tech, answered questions of the Committee Members.
Committee Member Weh r and Lim had no concerns with the sign proposal.
Committee Member Hoxsie stated that all signs should be smaller,
especially sign C.
DECISION:
On a 2-1 vote, with Committee Member Hoxsie voting no, application
ASAC 51,922.1 was approved according to the findings and conditions
contained in the Model Resolution.
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• 8. Application ASAC 51,924.1 - The Wherehouse Entertainment - Requesting
review and approval of a new sign program for a new shopping center
located at the southeast corner of Stevens Creek Boulevard and
Stelling Road.
Tom Robillard reviewed the staff comments, explaining the different
elements of the sign program and expressing his concerns with the
amount of signs being proposed.
Gemma Marshall, representing The Wherehouse, reviewed staff comments
and answered questions of the Committee Members.
Committee Member Lim stated that the south elevation sign was not
needed.
Committee Member Weber stated that the roof sign background should be
reduced to meet the sign ordinance area criteria. He stated that no
facia signs should be approved and that the amount of poster signs on
the window should be limited.
Committee Member Hoxsie stated that the south elevation sign should
not be approved and agreed with Committee Member Warr that no facia
signs should be approved. He further stated that the twenty inch
Wherehouse letters are too big and should be reduced.
The Committee Members then discussed on an appropriate letter height
• with a consensus of twenty four inches.
DECISION:
On a 2-1 vote with Committee Member Hoxsie voting no application ASAC
51,924.1 was approved according to the findings and conditions
contained in the Model Resolution, with Condition 10 and 12 modified,
and Condition 13 added to read as follows:
10. The approval is for the north and west facing roof signs which
shall be reduced to twenty four inch letters and one open sign
centered above the entrance.
12. The site address number mounted on the building shall be a
minimum height of three inches and shall be visible to passing
motorists on both sides of Stevens Creek Boulevard and Stelling
Road.
13. Any window signs shall meet the requirements for temporary
special event signs specified by Section 17.32.100 of the sign
ordinance.
MP/BUSINESS
9. Selection of two ASAC representatives to attend a joint meeting
between representatives of the Planning Commission, Parks Commission,
and Fine Arts Commission.
Committee Member Hoxsie and Committee Member Weber both volunt(mPred.
ASAC Minutes for the Meeting of October 22, 1990
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• APPROVAL OF !ffl :
10. Minutes of the regular ASAC meeting of October 8, 1990 were approved
as amended on a 2-0 vote with Committee Member Hoxsie abstaining.
OQTEE REPELS:
Committee Member Hoxsie suggested that, in the report of staff section of
the staff comments, a reminder of upcoming meetings be included: such as
Mayor's luncheon, Goals Committee, etc.
REPORT OF STAFF
- None.
AII70ORP
At 11:15 P.M. to the next regular meeting to be held on November 13, 1990
at 7:30 P.M., Conference Room A, City Hall.
PREPARED BY: APPROVED BY:
/s/ Thomas Robillard /s/ Robert Hoxsie
Thomas R. Robillard Robert Hoxsie, Acting Chairman
• Planner II Arch. and Site Approval Committee
ATTEST:
/s/ Dorothy Cornelius
Dorothy Cornelius
City Clerk
asac\minl0-22 (Amended 11/13/90)
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