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City of Cupertino
Audit Committee Regular Meeting
Minutes
May 23, 2022
CALL TO ORDER
At 4:00 p.m., Chair Moore called the regular meeting to order. This was a teleconference meeting
with no physical location.
ROLL CALL
Committee Members Present: Chair Kitty Moore, Vice Chair Angela Chen, Mayor Darcy Paul,
Committeemember Hammer
City Staff Present: Dianne Thompson, Kristina Alfaro, Thomas Leung, Beth Viajar
Absent: Committeemember Song
Guests: Matt Morley, Susan Michael, Chelsea Ritchie (Moss Adams), Chris McCarry (Chandler),
Annie Rose Favreau (Moss Adams), Colleen Rozillis (Moss Adams)
ORDERS OF THE DAY
Chair Moore asked to move item 8 after item 2 and item 3, 4, and 5 ahead of item 2 so the meeting
would begin with item 3, 4, and 5, then 2 and 8. No public comment. Mayor Paul moved the item
and Vice Chair Chen seconded. The motion carried unanimously.
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Vice Chair Chen moved to approve the minutes with the edit. Mayor Paul seconded. The motion
carried unanimously with Committeemember Hammer abstaining.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
NEW BUSINESS
3. Receive Internal Audit Status Report and provide direction
Rozillis provided an overview of the internal audit status reports. She noted that they would
present a proposed work program for next year at the next meeting. No public comment. Mayor
Paul asked if there was a presentation or timetable in the packet for them to review. Rozillis
confirmed that a memo was provided. Mayor Paul inquired if they would be looking to involve
this Committee or Council in any policy-making activities between now and the beginning of
next year. Rozillis said no, as these were the City's internal financial policies. If any policy updates
came to the Committee for approval, they would be at the governance level. Mayor Paul asked if
now was the time to provide policy recommendations. Rozillis noted that they did an inventory
of the City's financial policies and looked at where they were compared to best practices. They
did a gap analysis and provided recommendations for prioritized updates of those policies. In
terms of building next year's internal audit work program, they had some ideas. They have a
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regular meeting on Friday to discuss with management. The next step would be to reach out to
members of the Committee to ask for input on potential projects they would like to see for the
next fiscal year.
Mayor Paul inquired if the Procurement Officer was a part of the Fraud, Waste, and Abuse
Program or separate. Rozillis confirmed it would be separate as this was about establishing
policy, procedures, and training for more preventive and detective controls around fraud, waste,
and abuse. Mayor Paul asked if they would be recommending any personnel adjustments or
significant training. Rozillis said probably not personnel adjustments as these were easily
absorbed in the regular workflow. She also stated that they regularly administered these hotlines
for clients. They would work with the City to determine the appropriate ownership and develop
training. Mayor Paul asked if the Capital Program Effectiveness Study was where they should
expect discussion of a Procurement Officer. Rozillis said that procurement was a piece of the
effectiveness of the capital program. Mayor Paul asked if the capital program was where we
should be focusing on procurement or if we should be tracking it separately. Rozillis noted that
the capital program depended on the City's procurement function. It was important to keep in
mind their procurement report and recommendations. She said that if the City did not do some
of the procurement stuff, it would hamper the ability to deliver some of the capital programs.
Mayor Paul asked if they should internalize the recommendations with existing staff. Mayor Paul
asked if the recommendations were actionable, and should they start implementing training or
looking for appropriate personnel for the function. Rozillis confirmed that the reports were
actionable. Rozillis said they recommended a Procurement Manager, and the City could either
add an FTE or find pieces from across the City. Mayor Paul asked if their firm would be available
to help with identifying training programs for existing personnel or hiring personnel. Rozillis
said that their firm helped clients with this all the time. Mayor Paul asked if they could agendize
this item or how the Committee could have a more active role in formulating the job descriptions
or identifying training. Rozillis noted that they would pull examples from other cities they liked,
and the HR department would come up with the job description that the Committee would want.
She noted that it would be up to the City Manager to come up with the job description as Council
would not hire the Procurement Manager. Mayor Paul asked if it wouldn't be unusual for Council
to interface with the City Manager's Office to get a sense of the best job descriptions. Rozillis said
they could check in on the procurement study's implementation and status to see if the City was
moving forward. It would be appropriate to ask for status updates. Chair Moore asked if this
status update would go to City Council. Rozillis stated that status updates haven't typically been
provided to the Council, but they could be provided. For other clients, they provide reports and
an annual program update. Chair Moore noted that it was her preference that it goes to Council.
Chair Moore noted her concerns about the addition of a legislative strategy consultant in the City
Manager's Office. Chair Moore wanted to ensure that a Procurement Officer was in the next
budget. Alfaro noted that the position was being requested in the Administrative Services
Department under the Finance division. Leung confirmed that it was a position under finance.
Mayor Paul asked if the Purchasing Officer could be placed under the City Manager's Office.
Rozillis noted that it could be. They see it more commonly within finance or equally with finance.
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She noted that they want to ensure that whoever is in charge of procurement has appropriate
authority to partner with departments. The Administrative Services Department behaved that
way. Mayor Paul asked if half an FTE could be placed in the City Manager's Office. He noted the
14-year embezzlement and how he wanted more access to the staff accountant that discovered it.
He was told by the Administrative Services Department/Finance Manager that the Mayor would
not be able to talk to that person and would have to go through a transmittal of information. He
stated that the municipal code said they could get direct information from any employee. To
ensure that the public has a little more transparency into this function, he asked if the position
should be within the City Manager's Office or should it be clarified that they can get that
information from City staff. Rozillis noted that when this position is established, the job
description should clearly state the Procurement Officer's level of authority, and that the position,
if it reported to the Director of Administrative Services, had a dotted line relationship to the
Assistant City Manager or City Manager. Chair Moore noted that this was direction from the
Mayor to delineate the level of authority in the Procurement Officer's relationship with the
Assistant City Manager. She noted that the City of Chico's budget policies were nice and concise
and asked if Moss Adams could provide a comparison between their pages 8 and 14. Chair Moore
mentioned that the City of Chico included a policy related to the movement of money within the
budget and that the City of Cupertino was light on policies.
4. Receive Capital Program Effectiveness Study Report and provide direction
Favreau provided an overview of the report. She pointed out that the CIP division experienced
significant staff turnover before this assessment. Current city staff is stabilized and making
admirable progress towards improving the consistency and efficiency of their operat ions.
Favreau provided an overview of the recommendations. No public comment. Mayor Paul asked
what the redundancy in the Capital Program Manager's knowledge would look like. Would that
be in a different department or multiple people within Public Works? Favreau stated the key one
referenced was the Public Works Senior Management Analyst position, as the role supported
much of the CIP division's work. Mayor Paul asked if that position would be in Public Works,
somewhere else, or if it was not critical where this position was placed. Favreau confirmed that
the recommendation would be within Public Works. Mayor Paul noted that we were losing
opportunities if we did not have decent mobility in grant fundraising and asked if this was
covered in the report. Favreau confirmed it was covered. They recommended having at least one
enterprise-wide grant-related position, ideally with a background in Public Works. Mayor Paul
inquired if the recommendation could be interpreted as a more general city-wide position out of
the City Manager's Office. Favreau confirmed that they saw this as an enterprise-wide position
that could support the City as a whole. Mayor Paul inquired if we had lost expertise in grant
writing, as there was a Public Works position and an employee that was writing some grants. He
noted that we were not systematically looking for these funding opportunities.
Favreau noted that grant writing and identification is currently a decentralized process where
members of the team have expertise in this area, but it's not their singular job focus. If it were
centralized, there would be benefits similar to centralized coordination for procurement. Mayor
Paul agreed, adding that it is an added benefit not just logistically but also from the perspective
of neutrality and completeness. He noted that in Community Development, a grant was obtained
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a year ago and not brought back to the Council until a month and a half ago. During that time,
we lost all our opportunities to go ahead with the grant. He inquired if centralization would help
offset that tendency. Favreau noted that she was unsure. The primary benefit of centralization is
increased consistency and dedicated time to focus on the topic. Mayor Paul asked if they had
concerns about the grants, could they add to the administrative requirements that grant updates
be provided every two or three months. Director Alfaro noted that in the Administrative Services
budget under finance, we included a one-time special project for grant management using a
portion of an analyst for the first year to help identify city-wide grants. Administrative Services
would take the financial reporting piece, and the departments would take the operational
reporting piece until we knew what would happen with our budget in the wake of the CDTFA
Audit. Once we know the status of the audit, if appropriate, staff would ask for a Contract Analyst
position who would work under the Purchasing Officer. Chair Moore noted a contract under the
former Public Works Director for $100k for grant writing. She didn't know if it was utilized much
and whether a new contract had been initiated.
Chair Moore inquired about the recommendation to pursue retaining the two limited-term
Project Managers as full-time city employees. She also noted that the report said to hire support
for the Public Works Senior Management Analyst immediately. To her, this report should go to
City Council ahead of the June 7 meeting for budget adoption so that the positions could be
accounted for properly. Chair Moore also noted an issue with the policy, saying we were
supposed to have a five-year plan. The plan is supposed to indicate where the funding will come
from for various projects, and Council is supposed to prioritize these items. That piece of the
policy hasn't been brought forward to Council or focused on. Director Alfaro noted that one of
the limited-term positions was extended as part of the mid-year financial report. Because it is
vacant, the second position will be brought forward next year after the status of the CDTFA audit
is known. The Management Analyst position for Public Works is one of the 12 positions being
recommended for the Council's consideration. Director Alfaro noted that it is recommended as a
Management Analyst and not a Senior Management Analyst to provide that entry level.
Chair Moore inquired if there were any recommendations to the five-year plan as the policy states
shall. Shall ordinarily means that we must do it. Favreau noted that the interpretation of policies
would be left to the legal team and that it is best practice to have this because it will give the team
a clearer insight into what is coming up and the major expenses anticipated in the next 5 to 10
years. Chair Moore wondered if funding was available or if funding strategies were planned for
some of the CIP items as they are big-ticket items. She pointed out that there was a work plan and
a CIP budget, and the work plan had some CIP projects. She encouraged those items to be
removed to not muddy the waters. She noted that other cities did not have CIP projects embedded
in the work plan and asked for guidance. When the CIP moved forward, she would like more
information about how to know if we had adequate funding available, which would help the
decision-making process. Director Alfaro noted that Leung covered this in his portion of the
proposed budget presentation. There was a change in how we normally show transfers to the
capital reserve. Historically, it was not shown in the budget, making it more difficult for CIP to
do longer-term planning. We would transfer funds as part of mid-year once we closed out the
previous fiscal year and identified how much fund balance we had. To make the CIP a better
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planning tool, $2.5 million is included annually for Council's consideration in the long-term
forecast and the operating budget. CIP has planned that in their CIP budget as well.
Mayor Paul noted that we have a specialized, localized economy and inquired how we would
conduct a localized economic analysis. In our forecasts, there is an assumption of recessions every
so many years with the loss of fund balance. There is no historical precedence for that type of
loss. If we look at the CIP, there are three houses where nothing is being done. We could be
deriving income from that. Some of our peer jurisdictions have capital asset strategies to purchase
properties as an income stream. He inquired how we would get the requisite evaluations done,
whether these recommendations could be provided, and, budgetarily, what we should be setting
aside. Mayor Paul noted that Mountain View had a Strategic Acquisition program, which is a
significant revenue source for them. What kind of consultancy would be appropriate in this
context? Rozillis noted there are folks who work with municipal real estate, and they have a real
estate advisory director on the team to whom they can connect the City. The number one way
that they have seen it is clients have commercial property. They provide subsidized rent to not-
for-profits, community groups, and sometimes lower-income housing or affordable housing as
ways to perpetuate community culture. She provided Santa Monica as an example of how they
rent out a large portion of their real estate to arts organizations. Higher education also acquires
real estate near campus like the private sector because they are often landlocked. She mentioned
that the other piece is if these investments align with the City's mission and vision. As a Council,
that is a good policy direction to think about. She recommended putting clear policy language
around when to spend the money, what it's for, who gets to spend it, and how it's authorized as
a future set of elected officials will spend it. Mayor Paul asked whether that began and ended
with policy statements. Rozillis noted that at the policy level, they could look at the City's
property inventory on an annual basis and see if it is at its highest and best use, currently vacant,
or underutilized. Mayor Paul said it sounded like the recommendation would be to examine the
policies first and determine the reason for the delay. If it wasn't one of those situations, then we
should implement a policy related to real estate owned by the City. Rozillis confirmed and noted
that a holistic approach is needed as it is also related to reserves and investments.
Chair Moore wanted to hear comments on funding for Enterprise Funds because the proposed
budget revenues and expenditures for all four are negative . She would like guidance and advice
on those. She noted that the Capital Improvement Fund, Stevens Creek Corridor Park Fund, and
the Capital Reserve had $42.8 million in the proposed budget ending fund balance. She also noted
some IT improvements within Public Works. Because it's specialized project management, would
someone from our IT department be best suited to select software or improvements? She
mentioned that we funded this in our budget so Public Works can make these improvements.
Favreau noted that the funding question is outside the scope of this assessment. Regarding the IT
question, Public Works is actively working with IT to develop an in-house solution. Michael
noted that they were working on developing new software, which is being managed by IT. Alfaro
confirmed that the item for additional software was approved as part of the mid -year financial
report. Leung added that the Enterprise Funds built up fund balance during the pandemic, which
is why the transfers are slightly lower this year. Chair Moore mentioned that there was a policy
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regarding how the fees would or would not cover what was provided and noted that in the future,
this is something that they could look at with Moss Adams.
5. Receive Fiscal Policy Inventory and Gap Analysis Report and provide direction
Leung stated that policies and procedures are currently being reviewed by the City Manager and
Director of Administrative Services and should be finalized by the end of this fiscal year. Ritchie
provided an overview of the report and noted that management was proactive in completing and
updating policies and procedures. Chair Moore wanted to see the prioritized work plan. Alfaro
agreed with Moss Adams's comments and noted that staff had been documenting existing non-
formalized procedures or security setups in our system and formalizing them. Once the policies
were approved, staff would provide training sessions in July and August and refresher courses.
No public comment.
Committeemember Hammer asked how the risk assessments were measured or evaluated: was
it based on the risk of the area or the gap in the documentation. Ritchie noted that it was a mixture
of both, and page 4 of the document explained this in further detail. Chair Moore pointed out that
many high-risk areas were related to budgeting and wanted the Audit Committee to have full
access to this report. Ritchie screen shared and provided an overview of the recommendations.
Chair Moore wondered if the report mentioned the staffing level and if more staff was needed to
implement these changes. Alfaro noted that, aside from the Purchasing Manager, the Budget
Manager was requested to help alleviate the Finance Manager. Mayor Paul stated that the
management responses were the same response pasted seven times over and inquired as to where
the public was in this process and the Audit Committee's role. Ritchie noted that these are policies
and procedures on what staff should be doing on a day-to-day basis. The Audit Committee has
oversight but does not have to dabble that deep into management. They don't need to be as
worried about the processes if the financial policies are being done correctly and they have
reasonable assurances that the financial statements are correct. Mayor Paul noted that seven
categories are being presented as high risk, and all they had to understand the corrective action
is a statement that it is being worked on. How would they be able to get more of an
understanding? He asked if he needed to submit a PRA asking for details. Rozillis noted that they
have a recommendation tracking process where they provide the findings, recommendations ,
and status quarterly or annually. Mayor Paul asked if quarterly was the most frequent she had
seen these types of updates. Rozillis confirmed. It hadn't been started for the Audit Committee
because this is their first year. They could build it into the program for the next fiscal year. Chair
Moore would like to see this item go to City Council. She was thinking of a budget audit, where
someone would see, in regards to the entire budget, if funds coming in were attributed to
departments correctly. Rozillis noted that there's a very important role that the external auditor
plays in looking at how the City's funds are managed. Some of the questions are covered in that.
She added that they could add value by looking at the City's budget process. Leung said that staff
intended to bring both internal audit reports to City Council in June.
2. Review and consider accepting the Monthly Treasurer's Investment Report for April 2022
Leung provided an overview of how to review the reports. Chair Moore asked for the BNY
Mellon statement and the Petty Cash and Change reports. Leung noted that staff would provide
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the BNY Mellon statement moving forward and the Petty Cash and Change reports if requested.
Chair Moore inquired about LAIF. She asked why the account value was not moving and for staff
to provide any missing statements. Leung responded that the BNY Mellon account would be
provided moving forward. Leung showed the bank statement balances. LAIF deposits interest
quarterly, so the balance changes every quarter. McCarry provided an overview of their report
and noted no recessionary trends. Mayor Paul motioned. Vice Chair Chen seconded. Motion
carried unanimously by all members present.
8. Review Monthly Treasurer's Report for April 2022 and recommend filing with City
Council
Leung provided an overview of the April 2022 reports. No public comment. Mayor Paul thanked
Chair Moore for getting this information to the Audit Committee. Chair Moore asked how the
accounts fit in with the fund statements and balances and how she should interpret them. She
thinks the investment fund should be covering the $228 million. The March report for workers'
compensation had an ending balance of $4 million. When she tried to compare it to the Wells
Fargo account, it showed $720k. Where is that $4 million? She noted the same with parkland fees
of $22 million. We don't have a separate account somewhere for it. Where is that money sitting?
Leung said that the City pooled funds for all of its accounts. All the funds, General Fund,
Enterprise Funds, and Internal Services Funds, are pooled in the $228 million. For example,
worker's compensation funds would be transferred from the main checking account into those
funds if transactions needed to be made. Chair Moore noted that the actual balance isn't high
enough. Where would the money come from? We seemed to have more funds earmarked in the
statement than in assets that could cover it. Leung noted that for all funds combined, the City has
$228.4 million. $31.9 million is in cash in operating accounts, $21 million is in cash equivalents in
LAIF, and $156.9 million was in our investment accounts with Chandler. Pooling the accounts
allows the City to have greater liquidity and earn higher returns by allowing more funds to be
allocated towards investments. Chair Moore noted that staff should anticipate that these
questions may be asked again at City Council. Committeemember Hammer asked if Chair Moore
was asking about cash flow and how we were monitoring it. Chair Moore confirmed.
Chair Moore asked how to interpret these fund balances when deciding on next year's budget.
Alfaro noted that the $43 million in fund balance was already tied up in existing projects because
of how CIP was funded. CIP is funded completely in year one, and the funds are carried over to
the next year. Staff will work with CIP to show the $43 million and which projects have been
allocated towards the remaining balance. Leung added that neither of these reports showed how
much money was available to spend. Cash balance is different from fund balance because it is
measured on a cash basis. Fund balance is the total fund balance for the entire fund, so it's not
showing if funds have been earmarked for other projects. Monthly fund balances are based on
what's been received and spent to date. Chair Moore requested if Special Revenue Funds 210, 215,
and 230 should be rolled together. She requested if the funds could show the source of how the
funds came to be (ex. resolution or municipal code by ordinance). She noted having the same
question for Special Revenue Fund 270. She wondered how the Enterprise Funds were being kept
in the black as it seemed they operated at a loss. Leung confirmed that the City transfers funds to
these funds if they have a low fund balance on an annual basis as part of the proposed and
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adopted budget process. Alfaro added that the fee study from Matrix Consulting recommended
raising Parks and Recreation fees, but the City did not do that based on Council direction. Since
then, they have been increasing it based on market data from the Parks and Recreation
department. Leung added that for Parks and Recreation, fees are not increased based on CPI or
other escalators. In 2016, Council voted to maintain the fees below cost-recovery levels. Mayor
Paul motioned. Vice Chair Chen seconded. Motion carried unanimously by all members present.
6. Receive report on Interim Audit and AUP Engagements and provide direction
Chair Moore moved items 6, 7 (to include similar format to the April 2022 report) and 9 to a
5/24/22 continuation meeting. Mayor Paul seconded. Motion carried unanimously by all members
present.
7. Review Monthly Treasurer's Report for March 2022 and recommend filing with City
Council
Chair Moore moved items 6, 7 (to include similar format to the April 2022 report) and 9 to a
5/24/22 continuation meeting. Mayor Paul seconded. Motion carried unanimously by all members
present.
9. Receive Audit Committee 2022 Schedule and Work Plan and provide direction to staff
Chair Moore moved items 6, 7 (to include similar format to the April 2022 report) and 9 to a
5/24/22 continuation meeting. Mayor Paul seconded. Motion carried unanimously by all members
present.
OLD BUSINESS
None.
STAFF AND COMMITTEE REPORTS
FUTURE AGENDA SETTING
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
Recording Secretary:
Janet Liang, Administrative Assistant