AC 09-26-2022
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City of Cupertino
Audit Committee Regular Meeting
Minutes
September 26, 2022
CALL TO ORDER
At 4:00 p.m., Chair Moore called the regular meeting to order. This was a teleconference meeting
with no physical location.
ROLL CALL
Committee Members Present: Chair Kitty Moore, Mayor Darcy Paul, Committeemember Laura
Hammer, Committeemember Sophie Song
City Staff Present: Kristina Alfaro, Thomas Leung, Beth Viajar, Lizz Cook, Pamela Wu
Absent: Vice Chair Angela Chen
Guests: Carlos Oblites (Chandler), Kathy Lai (Crowe), Matt Geerdes (Crowe)
ORDERS OF THE DAY
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 22, 2022
Committeemember Hammer motioned, and Mayor Paul seconded. The motion carried
unanimously by all members present.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
NEW BUSINESS
2. Consider an update on the FY 2021-22 Audit and AUP Engagements
Lai provided an update. Committeemember Hammer asked about the materiality of the one
major program. Geerdes noted that there were certain numbers when it came to materiality that
auditors could not communicate. He added that in determining whether a program is required
to be audited, the type A threshold is $750k. Committeemember Hammer asked if the
Coronavirus Local Fiscal Recovery Fund program was a reimbursable grant. Lai noted that the
Coronavirus Local Fiscal Recovery Fund was a new federal program and was part of the
American Rescue Plan Act. Lai added that the funds were advanced and received in tranches.
Alfaro noted that we received the first tranche at end of 2021 and the second tranche early in
Fiscal Year 2023. Committeemember Hammer asked if Crowe would come back in January with
the update or the final audit results. Geerdes noted it was typically an update.
Chair Moore asked what the leases were. Geerdes noted that they looked at it from both the lessor
and lessee perspective, as the City does lease equipment and the City leases its property to third
parties. Chair Moore asked in the past if we were leasing out our coffee shop, would it be
included? Geerdes noted that it would not because it would not have met the definition of a lease
by the old GASB definition.
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Mayor Paul asked if there was a guide for the types of questions that would be asked under the
categories. Lai noted that they just mentioned high-level broad topics relative to the auditing
standards. Mayor Paul asked if there were any resources or references that Crowe recommended
to look into the subject matter. Lai noted that there were audit committee training and auditing
standards sources. Chair Moore noted that the conversation was too high level for the public and
would like to make it more accessible.
3. Consider the Monthly Treasurer's Investment Report for August 2022
Leung provided an overview of the report. Oblites provided an update on the portfolio. No public
comment. Oblites noted this report was more abbreviated and was focused on helping the
committee understand what was driving the economy. Mayor Paul asked if we should look at
any investment types that were different from our current portfolio. Oblites noted that they were
comfortable with the current portfolio. They had worked with staff to expand the policies to take
every advantage available. Mayor Paul motioned, and Committeemember Hammer seconded.
The motion carried unanimously by all members present.
4. Consider the Monthly Treasurer's Report for August 2022
Leung provided an overview of the report. No public comment. Chair Moore asked about the
payments for classes and how she would determine if it would cause a revenue or deficit. Alfaro
noted that the revenues were in ActiveNet and imported as a journal in summary into the
financial system. Alfaro added that Parks and Recreation might not track the expenditures for
each class, ex: staff time. Most financial systems do not track to the class level. Chair Moore noted
that Math Olympiad contracts came to Council, but contracts for other classes did not come to
Council. She asked if some classes were hitting certain thresholds. Alfaro deferred to the City
Manager. Chair Moore would like to understand why contracts for some classes came to Council,
and some did not. City Manager Wu noted that staff would provide a follow-up.
Mayor Paul asked about the payment to the County of Santa Clara. Alfaro noted that they were
additional police services provided outside of their contract. The city acts as a pass-through in
coordinating with the organization and the Sheriff’s Office, and the City receives a 15%
administrative fee.
Mayor Paul asked about the Torre Avenue Library Book Drop off. Alfaro noted that staff would
check which program it was budgeted in. Mayor Paul asked what fund this came out of, what
empowered the library book drop off, if it was a carryover, and what expenditures were for the
Civic Center Parking project. Leung noted that the invoice was related to parking, and staff would
follow up on the other questions.
Chair Moore asked about the $21 million in the Park Dedication Fund and if that could be spent
on parks. Leung confirmed and noted that staff would check to see if any of it had been
appropriated. Alfaro said that although we have received the money, we need to receive approval
from City Council to move forward with any projects. Chair Moore asked how the development
impact fees were tracked. Alfaro noted that staff worked closely with the Community
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Development Department (CDD) to find out when these fees come in, ensure they went into the
appropriate accounts, and track and leave notes about what these projects are restricted for.
Alfaro noted that it was tracked in Accela. Chair Moore asked if she could see an example. Alfaro
recommended that CDD bring it as an item of interest to Council and committee members as it
did not tie into Audit but could fall under Budget Review.
Mayor Paul asked how the Civic Center Parking Analysis project changed to a book drop-off and
how one could justify a project they had not heard about. Alfaro noted that there would be a
supplemental report to Council addressing the questions asked. Committeemember Hammer
motioned, and Mayor Paul seconded. The motion carried unanimously by all members present.
5. Consider an overview of the Unassigned Fund Balance and Use of One Time Funds Policy
(Continued from August 22, 2022)
Alfaro provided an overview of the policy. Chair Moore asked about other cities’ funding levels.
Leung noted that the comparison included a reserve if a City had funds, even if it did not have a
policy. Chair Moore asked staff to see if other cities had something similar to the City of
Cupertino’s PERS. Leung noted that staff would follow up to see how other cities prioritized their
reserves and could provide an updated analysis of what Cupertino had in PERS compared to
other cities. Chair Moore noted that Mountain View had many reserves Cupertino did not have
and should there be a discussion into creating those reserves. Mayor Paul requested to see how
we were doing compared to other cities in our projected capitalization rates and to consider a
strategic property acquisition fund. Alfaro noted that to access funds for strategic property
acquisition, Council authority would be needed.
6. Consider an overview of data sources for the City's interactive financial transparency portal
OpenGov (Continued from August 22, 2022)
Leung provided an overview of OpenGov. Chair Moore asked about the timeline for moving
forward with a new software system that would integrate with the ERP system. Alfaro noted that
we were waiting for our new Finance Manager to move forward. Alfaro added that our current
system did integrate with OpenGov. The new ERP would be a new financial system as Tyler
bought New World and could eventually stop servicing New World. Leung added that moving
to a new ERP system would not change what OpenGov would look like. It would just change the
data source.
7. Consider the Audit Committee 2022 Schedule and Work Plan
Cook recommended that the budget format review study session be moved to a special meeting
in January in the interest of time. Chair Moore asked if she wanted to see Measure B funds broken
out, would it throw a wrench in things. Alfaro noted that if the budget subcommittee provided
examples of how they want it formatted, staff could work on it.
OLD BUSINESS
STAFF AND COMMITTEE REPORTS
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FUTURE AGENDA SETTING
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 6:09 p.m.
Recording Secretary:
Janet Liang, Administrative Assistant